AHC: Nazi weapons produced post war

The 88mm KwK L71 and 75mm KwK L70 would actually be worth keeping even by the 50s and 60s and longer for light vehicles, although they could get so many improved components and ammunition that they would only stay Ship of Theseus-style. However by the time Germany could produce them again they have other foreign standards to use and evryone else had equivalent ammo/gun length standards to work with.

The one exception might be Czechoslovakia since they already built such ammo and guns during the war and could have good reasons to use those over the Soviet 100mm standard of the immediate postwar period (although OTL they just built higher velocity 100mms and called it a day).
 

Nick P

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The Fieseler Storch was produced until 1965 by the French as the Criquet. The Czech were building them until 1949. Romania built some until 1946.
France built 65 of the FW-190 (mostly from spares and parts) and flew them until 1949.
Ju-88 were used by France and may have been built from spares. They were used until at least 1955 for testing ramjet engines which suggests a large stockpile of spares and a production line. http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-88-and-ju-188-in-french.html
Me-108 were built as the Nord 1000 Pingouin from 1942 until after WW2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Pingouin

Me-262 was built by the Czech in small numbers as the Avia S-92 and used until 1951.
Messerschmitt Bf-109 was built by the Czechs as the Avia S-99 and S-199. Over 600 were made. They even sold some to Israel. Not a great design and very hard to fly as they had to use bomber engines.

Lots of German tanks and APCs went out to the Middle East. Czechoslovakia made some good money selling new or rebuilt versions of German tanks!
Syria had Panzer IVs , Stug III and Jadgpanzers. https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2016/09/04/panzers-in-the-golan-heights/
 
The Fieseler Storch was produced until 1965 by the French as the Criquet. The Czech were building them until 1949. Romania built some until 1946.
France built 65 of the FW-190 (mostly from spares and parts) and flew them until 1949.
Ju-88 were used by France and may have been built from spares. They were used until at least 1955 for testing ramjet engines which suggests a large stockpile of spares and a production line. http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-88-and-ju-188-in-french.html
Me-108 were built as the Nord 1000 Pingouin from 1942 until after WW2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Pingouin

Me-262 was built by the Czech in small numbers as the Avia S-92 and used until 1951.
Messerschmitt Bf-109 was built by the Czechs as the Avia S-99 and S-199. Over 600 were made. They even sold some to Israel. Not a great design and very hard to fly as they had to use bomber engines.

Lots of German tanks and APCs went out to the Middle East. Czechoslovakia made some good money selling new or rebuilt versions of German tanks!
Syria had Panzer IVs , Stug III and Jadgpanzers. https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2016/09/04/panzers-in-the-golan-heights/

1948 Was a weird air war. You had former British and American WW2 pilots flying on both sides. On the Israeli side you had former Anglo/ American pilots flying Frankenstein Czech made BF109 copies. On the Arab side former Anglo and American pilots flying spitfire and I believe even a few P51s against each other.
 
My take is that 'lower' you go, the more sense the German kit makes. Guns - MP-40, StG, MG-42, FG-42, artillery (basically everything from mortars to 210mm), AT/Flak guns (Yugoslavia modified US 90mm HVAP shots for use on 88mm Pak, and used the 88mm Flak as a coastal gun*). Once we're at tanks and aircraft - okay, if you really can't get something better from USA, USSR or UK, that stuff will be obsolete fast.

* the 90mm Italian AA gun from coastal batteries were key piece that drove back JNA-supported Serb units from Šibenik bridge in 1991 in Croatia, thus preventing them from cutting Dalamatia in half - almost 50 years after the guns were produced
 

marathag

Banned
The oldest guns still in service goes to the Ottomans, that used 15thC guns firing Stone Shot at the British Predreds when they tried to force the Straits in 1915.
Years ago, used to have a picture of the Shot fired against Agamemnon that they saved.
 
The oldest guns still in service goes to the Ottomans, that used 15thC guns firing Stone Shot at the British Predreds when they tried to force the Straits in 1915.
Years ago, used to have a picture of the Shot fired against Agamemnon that they saved.

Your post brings this song to mind...

 
Well i believe mark felton made a good video on the post war first german army (not the bundeswehr but the border guards) which unsurprisingly used basically all the leftovers from the wars (de nazified of course) stuff like kar98k (i believe the frankreich model), P-38 and another pistol that i forgot the name,MG-42,the beretta model 38 (they wanted the mp-40 but didnt found a good number) and some wehrmacht vehicle and equipment (the helmet is a notable one) interestingly enough i never seen any record of west german using the stg-44 unlike the east german (which kinda puzzled me why they dont want to use it)
 
Well i believe mark felton made a good video on the post war first german army (not the bundeswehr but the border guards) which unsurprisingly used basically all the leftovers from the wars (de nazified of course) stuff like kar98k (i believe the frankreich model), P-38 and another pistol that i forgot the name,MG-42,the beretta model 38 (they wanted the mp-40 but didnt found a good number) and some wehrmacht vehicle and equipment (the helmet is a notable one) interestingly enough i never seen any record of west german using the stg-44 unlike the east german (which kinda puzzled me why they dont want to use it)
was it this vid?
the pistol was the Astra 600/43
 
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The Fieseler Storch was produced until 1965 by the French as the Criquet. The Czech were building them until 1949. Romania built some until 1946.
France built 65 of the FW-190 (mostly from spares and parts) and flew them until 1949.
Ju-88 were used by France and may have been built from spares. They were used until at least 1955 for testing ramjet engines which suggests a large stockpile of spares and a production line. http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-88-and-ju-188-in-french.html
Me-108 were built as the Nord 1000 Pingouin from 1942 until after WW2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Pingouin

Me-262 was built by the Czech in small numbers as the Avia S-92 and used until 1951.
Messerschmitt Bf-109 was built by the Czechs as the Avia S-99 and S-199. Over 600 were made. They even sold some to Israel. Not a great design and very hard to fly as they had to use bomber engines.

Lots of German tanks and APCs went out to the Middle East. Czechoslovakia made some good money selling new or rebuilt versions of German tanks!
Syria had Panzer IVs , Stug III and Jadgpanzers. https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2016/09/04/panzers-in-the-golan-heights/
Avia S-92 the warehouse with the DB engines for them burnt down with the loss of all the fighter engines for them. The only engine they could use was the jumo one.
This one might be useful too.
 
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Space boats???
Ah. Räumboote, an entirely different thing all together.

(If you don't have accents easily accessible, German umlauted vowels can be spelt with a 'e', so Raeumboote).
Sorry I’m not a German speaker !
Yes the The small coastal minesweepers that also acted As escorts and if they are up gunned and provided with torpedoes maybe could be like PT boats
 

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Space boats???
Ah. Räumboote, an entirely different thing all together.

(If you don't have accents easily accessible, German umlauted vowels can be spelt with a 'e', so Raeumboote).
Sorry I’m not a German speaker !
Yes the The small coastal minesweepers that also acted As escorts and if they are up gunned and provided with torpedoes maybe could be like PT
Your post brings this song to mind...

and “ killing Jason and Countless screaming Argonauts”
 
Fritz X, or had the Allies already by-passed that by war's end?
They had better by April 1945, Bat was radar guided rather than remote controlled like Fritz X and had longer range. Azon was June 1944 and more directly comparable to Fritz X, arguably inferior in only having azimuth not pitch control, but Razon, which just missed the war fixed that, and Tarzon was in the works. The Heat seeking Felix was another just missed the war guided weapon
 
The Fieseler Storch was produced until 1965 by the French as the Criquet. The Czech were building them until 1949. Romania built some until 1946.
France built 65 of the FW-190 (mostly from spares and parts) and flew them until 1949.
Ju-88 were used by France and may have been built from spares. They were used until at least 1955 for testing ramjet engines which suggests a large stockpile of spares and a production line. http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2010/11/junkers-ju-88-and-ju-188-in-french.html
Me-108 were built as the Nord 1000 Pingouin from 1942 until after WW2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Pingouin

Me-262 was built by the Czech in small numbers as the Avia S-92 and used until 1951.
Messerschmitt Bf-109 was built by the Czechs as the Avia S-99 and S-199. Over 600 were made. They even sold some to Israel. Not a great design and very hard to fly as they had to use bomber engines.

Lots of German tanks and APCs went out to the Middle East. Czechoslovakia made some good money selling new or rebuilt versions of German tanks!
Syria had Panzer IVs , Stug III and Jadgpanzers. https://wwiiafterwwii.wordpress.com/2016/09/04/panzers-in-the-golan-heights/
The Spanish also built their own 109's... the Hispano HA-1112. They look a little strange, since the nose had to be re-worked somewhat to accept the upright H-S V-12 instead of the inverted DB... had nasty torque issues because the engine swap (reverse rotation from the DB) left the tailfin offset to the wrong side...
 

CalBear

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1948 Was a weird air war. You had former British and American WW2 pilots flying on both sides. On the Israeli side you had former Anglo/ American pilots flying Frankenstein Czech made BF109 copies. On the Arab side former Anglo and American pilots flying spitfire and I believe even a few P51s against each other.
B-17 escorted by Me-109s being attacked by Spitfires.

It is almost one of our AH challenge scenarios come to life.
 
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