AHC: Nazi weapons produced post war

[SealTheRealDeal]

A new Bayonet?

And all this time I thought the U.S. DoD was the king of wasting money,

Seriously. In the build up to the Gulf War the Saudis for whatever reason paid to have a brand new bayonet designed and built for the thousands of 98ks they still had sitting gathering dust in warehouses.

Not even some cheap Chinese manufactured cheapo crap but a pretty high end and nice des I gn made by an upper end Austrian company to some pretty high standards. At that point the bayonets were probably worth several times the value of the rifles they were supposed to go to ( Still a huge glut of Mausers or copies like the M48 on the market).

Obviously they never saw service. I think the Bayonets got given away post war to various foreign friends and backers.

They also look... like the last thing you'd ever expect to be on a Mauser.

source: https://www.gunboards.com/threads/kcb77m6-for-saudi-arabia.397544/

Like... Wow! Given these guns' only potential remaining use is as some sort of ceremonial drill rifle you'd think they'd go with an old fashioned shiny sword bayonet.

 

[Father Maryland]

B-17 escorted by Me-109s being attacked by Spitfires.

It is almost one of our AH challenge scenarios come to life.

B17s literally Frankensteined from scrapyards. Basically agents would scour European scrap yards for scrapped/demilled B17s. Salvage parts off dozens of different B17s until you could assemble a handful of working ones.

Then later in the 50s and 60s the Syrians bought a number of old Stugs and Panzers from the Czechs. So you had during the 6 day war Israeli Centurions and Super Sherman's fighting Panzers and Stugs in the Golan heights.

Indians did something similar in the 50s. They assembled fifty working B24s by scrounging through old RAF airfields where as part of Lend Lease they'd slap dash scrapped a couple hundred bombers. The Indians scrounged the graveyards until they could assemble two full squadrons of B24s.

 

[Rfl23]

was it this vid?

the pistol was the Astra 600/43

Yup this is the vid

 

[Monk78]

what about the German army Mortars were they any good ?

And also Vorpostenboote can they be used as a template for OPV /patrol craft ?

 

[Catsmate]

Modified V1 as a nuclear capable GLCM

By whom? By the time nuclear warheads were miniaturised to a size the V1 could carry the weapon was obsolete.

 

[Monk78]

By whom? By the time nuclear warheads were miniaturised to a size the V1 could carry the weapon was obsolete.

Maybe conventional warheads
Same missile but faster speed and ECM resistance

 

[SealTheRealDeal]

what about the German army Mortars were they any good ?

Their light one was needlessly over complicated, iirc their mediums and heavies were pretty good.

 

[Catsmate]

Maybe conventional warheads
Same missile but faster speed and ECM resistance

You'd need an actual guidance system, the V-1 had a CEP of 12.5km. Even the radio guided V-2 had a CEP of around a kilometre.
Really it's a pointless weapon except as a nuclear delivery system or where you lack the ability for conventional aerial attack.

 

[Nick P]

B17s literally Frankensteined from scrapyards. Basically agents would scour European scrap yards for scrapped/demilled B17s. Salvage parts off dozens of different B17s until you could assemble a handful of working ones.

Then later in the 50s and 60s the Syrians bought a number of old Stugs and Panzers from the Czechs. So you had during the 6 day war Israeli Centurions and Super Sherman's fighting Panzers and Stugs in the Golan heights.

Indians did something similar in the 50s. They assembled fifty working B24s by scrounging through old RAF airfields where as part of Lend Lease they'd slap dash scrapped a couple hundred bombers. The Indians scrounged the graveyards until they could assemble two full squadrons of B24s.

The full story is here. Jimmy Munshi was a brave test pilot!

India's Reclaimed Bombers: The B-24 Liberator

A history of the B-24 Liberator in IAF service ...

www.bharat-rakshak.com

 

[Not James Stockdale]

what about the German army Mortars were they any good ?

And also Vorpostenboote can they be used as a template for OPV /patrol craft ?

Basically all 60+ mm mortars in WWII were variations on the Brandt design, which was itself a descendant of the British Stokes mortars from WWI. That's why they came in 3.2 inch (81 or 82 mm) or 4.2 inch (106 or 107 mm) varieties. The 120 mm mortars that the French, Germans, Soviets, and Finns used were all basically the same, as well. After WWII, there's no reason for any country to specifically copy the German copy of the Brandt mortars because most countries already had their own copies of Brandt mortars or were using American, British, or Soviet copies.

The Vorpostenboote program was just a system of utilizing fishing trawlers as patrol/escort ships. Everyone else did the same thing with their own offshore.

 

[Father Maryland]

The German " Bouncing betty" type mine ended up getting copied by pretty much everyone. I think both the US and The Soviet Union Post war developed versions that replaced the conventional explosives and shrapnel with nerve gas.

 

[Dilvish]

Raumboote. Perfect inshore patrol vessels

I believe the Spanish built those minesweepers after the war. I think the S-boats could have found uses elsewhere. Sweden maybe for one?

 

[BELFAST]

I believe the Spanish built those minesweepers after the war. I think the S-boats could have found uses elsewhere. Sweden maybe for one?

In 1956 the British used captured E-boats manned by the same German crews to launch spy missions against the Soviet Union.

E-boat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | E boat, Boat, Wwii

May 3, 2012 - E-Boats were German versions of the American PT boat. They were a little faster at 50 knots and could travel much farther, 700 miles. In 1944, a squadron of E-Boats came across undefended American and British troops practicing for D-Day and launched an attack, killing 1000 American...

www.pinterest.ie

They were used by many countries after ww2.

E-boat - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[BELFAST]

B-17 escorted by Me-109s being attacked by Spitfires.

It is almost one of our AH challenge scenarios come to life.

That happened during ww2 without the spitfire attacks.

When a WW2 German Ace Stumbled Across a Crippled B-17 and Escorted It Home

Truly touching moments of humanity, ethics and morals are rather rare in warfare. The Christmas Truce of WWI was an excellent example of such humanity, as

www.warhistoryonline.com

 

[Monk78]

In 1956 the British used captured E-boats manned by the same German crews to launch spy missions against the Soviet Union.

E-boat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | E boat, Boat, Wwii

May 3, 2012 - E-Boats were German versions of the American PT boat. They were a little faster at 50 knots and could travel much farther, 700 miles. In 1944, a squadron of E-Boats came across undefended American and British troops practicing for D-Day and launched an attack, killing 1000 American...

www.pinterest.ie

They were used by many countries after ww2.

E-boat - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

wonder why the Bundesmarine never developed any FAC based on them

 

[Monk78]

Ju 188 were used by the French navy if I'm not mistaken , could have been used in ALgeria or indochina as a light bomber in this timeline

 

[Millsy]

Learnt on a podcast the other day that the US reverse engineered the butterfly bomb and were still using in great quantities in Vietnam does that count

 

[stephen the barbarian]

what about the German army Mortars were they any good ?

as pointed out, their 12cm, 10cm, and 8cm mortars are basically Brant derivatives
and then you get into stuff like this;