AHC: Nazi invasion of the USA by 1950

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Something has been bugging me. In your TL AANW the Germans never followed through with their atomic bomb project, but they had both the time and the resources to do so. They also had a period of peace where they would have been uninterrupted in any research they did. I have trouble believing Germany given these preconditions, plus probably having a spy or two to let them know just how powerful the U.S. a-bomb was would have any trouble duplicating the feat.
IIRC, in AANW, the Germans got suckered by the mother of all disinformation campaigns. They had what was left of the KGB spreading the news that the Americans had determined (just as the Germans had) that an atomic bomb wasn't a feasible weapon. Plus, the bomb wasn't used in Japan, something that Germany assumed it would have been if they existed. I also seem to recall that testing was pretty limited and that what testing did take place, was done in the literal ass end of nowhere.
 
IIRC, in AANW, the Germans got suckered by the mother of all disinformation campaigns. They had what was left of the KGB spreading the news that the Americans had determined (just as the Germans had) that an atomic bomb wasn't a feasible weapon. Plus, the bomb wasn't used in Japan, something that Germany assumed it would have been if they existed. I also seem to recall that testing was pretty limited and that what testing did take place, was done in the literal ass end of nowhere.

I havent read AANW recently, but wasnt the test in oceania or such, and proclaimed to be some other thing like an asteroid impact when questioned?
 
I havent read AANW recently, but wasnt the test in oceania or such, and proclaimed to be some other thing like an asteroid impact when questioned?
It should be noted the Germans DID know the US had invented some kind of massive explosive, or at least highly suspected it. And there were people within the Nazi government who thought it was an atomic bomb. BUT the Americans deployed fuel-air weapons in Sicily, which also fit the bill of a massive explosive, and so it was concluded (logically actually) that this was the explosive intelligence pointed to, and the rumors of a known impossibility (regardless of whether it was or not) were dismissed as exaggeration.
 

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I havent read AANW recently, but wasnt the test in oceania or such, and proclaimed to be some other thing like an asteroid impact when questioned?
Not as far as I remember. There wasn't any mention of test locations for nuke, nuclear or atom in the AANW finished thread. The Germans mistrusted 'Jewish Science' and because of the disinformation campaigns by the Soviets and others, they discounted the feasibility of nuclear devices. In fact, the Germans thought that the BLU-9 Fuel-Air Weapon "propane popper" which was used during the invasion of Sicily was the rumored powerful explosive device the Allies had-until the Allies broke out the nukes later in the timeline in response to the German 'Victory Offensive' / chemical strikes on the UK and other locations.

EDIT: Not including the use of Genie nuclear tipped missiles during the St. Patrick's Day Raids that is.
 
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Calbear you wrote:



Something has been bugging me. In your TL AANW the Germans never followed through with their atomic bomb project, but they had both the time and the resources to do so. They also had a period of peace where they would have been uninterrupted in any research they did. I have trouble believing Germany given these preconditions, plus probably having a spy or two to let them know just how powerful the U.S. a-bomb was would have any trouble duplicating the feat.
In AANW the Reich's already established belief that the Bomb was impossible was reinforced by a serious disinformation campaign by remnants of the NKVD/GRU. Call it the last great act of defiance, but the same agents who provided the USSR with information that jump started the Soviet effort by at least 18 months, we tasked with providing believable information that Manhattan had failed. The best lie is draped in truth so the disinformation include some actual facts about the effort that reinforced the Nazi's preconceptions. What it didn't provide was anything that indicated the effort had succeeded, instead it "proved" that the Reich's non-Jewish scientists had been correct, the Bomb was a Fool's errand, and that the "English" had wasted 50 billion Reichmarks on a dry hole.
 
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