With an OTL World War 1 with a Central Powers victory, make the Nazi party with Hitler as head come to power in Germany.
With an OTL World War 1 with a Central Powers victory, make the Nazi party with Hitler as head come to power in Germany.
With an OTL World War 1 with a Central Powers victory, make the Nazi party with Hitler as head come to power in Germany.
With an OTL World War 1 with a Central Powers victory, make the Nazi party with Hitler as head come to power in Germany.
I don't think that this is literally possible, but in a late Central Powers victory scenario where the Soviet Union still forms (even if hampered by Brest-Litovsk), the fear of communist agitation is probably going to cause some sort of far-right political reaction in Germany, especially considering that the USSR may eventually start to openly or covertly start asserting irredentist claims over the new German satellite regimes in Eastern Europe.
Damn near impossible. A realistic CP victory means the German right choking on a victory nowhere near as sweet as they promised, the Heer putting out brushfire conflicts across eastern Europe, a France that's definitely coming back revanchist and mad as hell, a Britain that WW1 Germany realistically can't touch the actual shores of whose industry will be intact and which will be looking for any and every chance to screw over Germany.
Also the people will want political liberalization. Think the OTL British shift to Labour in '18, only in Germany. The elites, or enough of them anyway, will allow a shift to the moderate left (possibly in coalition with liberals?) in order to avoid Red revolt.
Without the seesawing political situation of Weimar (socialist revolt--nationalist para violence--let-it-all-hang-out liberalism--economic collapse--reactionary backlash conservatism--Prussian coup--left-wing electoral resurgence--Hindenburg letting Hitler in--Reichstag fire false-flag--purge--rigged elections to justify seizure of more power--HAIL FUHRER), lingering rage over losing WW1, political credibility of far-right groups resulting from said rage and the far-right's role in putting down the Spartakist rebellion, and the particular chain of events that led Hitler to get power in the first place (and it was a really odd chain of events, Hindenburg and von Papen were trying to get more conventional national conservatives in absolute control of Germany at the state as well as federal levels. They pulled off a straight-up coup in Prussia in '32, that let Hitler consolidate power really quickly two years later by defanging the state government in what was still by far the biggest and most powerful state.
With the Kaiser still having a degree of veto power, the population veering left, far greater political and social stability, and fear of radical elements among the elite inspired by the revanchists that will undoubtedly be taking over France during this time, the Nazis will, at best, be remembered as those nuts who tried to coup after they got drunk and were put down by the police.
How does Germany halt the American offensive? Where do they get the men and materiel for another Kaiserschlacht, and how do they find and hire a genius+mentally stable general capable of doing Kaiserschlacht 2.0 but in a far worse strategic situation with the Entente getting a second wind and Germany literally on the brink of collapse? Where do they get a propaganda minister who can make a situation exponentially worse than Britain's and getting worse by the day somehow turn into a unified nation A-OK with the increasingly obviously pointless war?My own POD would look like this :
Germany miraculously somehow manages to halt the American Meuse Argonne Offensive. Germany then hires some sort of a genius general that manages to launch another Spring offensive style. Germany manages to exploit the resources of Eastern European lands they received after the defeat of Russia faster, receiving a steady flow of food. Somehow, a genius propaganda minister is hired, quelling the home front in Central Powers nations down, and with his genius tactics calms the general public down. Germany in a miracle manages to reach Paris with the Fall Offensive. Germany then somehow manages to develop a state of the art U boat model, the World War 1 equivalent of the Elektroboot. Allied shipping comes to a disaster, and the Allied powers are cut off of supplies. The Allied armies then begin to starve just like the Central Powers armies but with the Central Powers having the upper hand in this scenario due to the genius tactics of the said general and propaganda minister. Due to the new U boat model, AEF armies will have a hell of a time being shipped to Europe. Bulgaria does an OTL Romania and rejoins the war at the last minute. Allies accept German peace offer...
With that being said...
It's the 1920s and Germany just won World War 1. Even though the Fall offensive was a success, it costed Germany an arm and a leg. The German population only didn't revolt due to Germany winning and the tactics of the genius propaganda minister. The British blockade utterly destroyed the German economy, and Germany is left with it's best men dead, a starving population and sick people everywhere, and an economy in shatters. Germany then becomes an OTL France but MUCH worse due to the said reasons. Even the sweet prizes of the war such as reparations from the Allies and the sweet new colonies from the British, French, and Americans doesn't help. The Austro Hungarian empire shatters in the 20s due to the effects of the war, similar to OTL Spain in the post Napoleonic Wars. Germany then picks up the remains of the Austro Hungarian empire, including Austria itself, Hitler's home country. The Ottoman Empire explodes into revolution due to the effects of the war and anger across the Ottoman population of the actions of the Sultan. OTL Turkey then becomes an OTL Netherlands after World War 2, with it's colonies (or non Turkish territories) rebelling, similar to the OTL Indonesian revolution post World War 2. Germany sends an army to help, but withdraws due to the fear of communist sympathizers. Due to the existence of the Soviet Union and the rise of the population of far left parties (similar to OTL France but much worse), this leads to the rise of far right parties. The Nazi party then forms and Hitler joins as OTL. The Frankfurt Stock market crash of 1927 happens (similar to the OTL 1929 New York stock market crash) and Germany plunges into the Great Depression. Germany in the 30s is a much worse OTl France, with far left and far right parties rising in popularity. The rest of the story is for you people who are better in history than me to decide...
It's basically impossible for Germany to win post-Kaiserschlacht without a literal ASB crashing an asteroid into DC and London.
I don't think that this is literally possible, but in a late Central Powers victory scenario where the Soviet Union still forms (even if hampered by Brest-Litovsk), the fear of communist agitation is probably going to cause some sort of far-right political reaction in Germany, especially considering that the USSR may eventually start to openly or covertly start asserting irredentist claims over the new German satellite regimes in Eastern Europe.
That’s if Germany won World War 1 earlier in order for Germany to do such an act. But if that happened, the circumstances that develop a totalitarian Germany in a Central Victory world wouldn’t even exist. In this TL, in order to create a stipulation for post war Imperial Germany to be so bad that leads to a totalitarian government, you need Germany to be completely burned out, completely starving, a shattered economy, and a political situation so unstable. Which is why I created my POD above. Germany in this POD manages to win World War 1, but got so burned out it is unable to intervene in other nation’s affairs while dealing with it’s own domestic affairs.The Svoiet Union wouldn't form if the Central Powers won, the Germans planned to crush the Bolsheviks and install a conservative puppet state in Russia, read https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...intervention-in-the-russian-civil-war.363450/.
By the time the Meuse Argonne Offensive started, the Macedonian front was shattered, the Ottomans were being rolled up in the Levant, and the Italians were about to launch their attacks at Vittorio Veneto. The Germans allies were going to all drop out within a month so even if the Germans miraculously stop the Western Front offensive, they can't stop all forces that are invading Germany from the West and the South.That’s if Germany won World War 1 earlier in order for Germany to do such an act. But if that happened, the circumstances that develop a totalitarian Germany in a Central Victory world wouldn’t even exist. In this TL, in order to create a stipulation for post war Imperial Germany to be so bad that leads to a totalitarian government, you need Germany to be completely burned out, completely starving, a shattered economy, and a political situation so unstable. Which is why I created my POD above. Germany in this POD manages to win World War 1, but got so burned out it is unable to intervene in other nation’s affairs while dealing with it’s own domestic affairs.
If they even get as far as to attempt a laughable coup (a la the Beer Hall Putsch) in a CP victory world, they won't be facing jail afterwards...the lot of them would be executed.