AHC: Native American State in the US

With a POD of after the American revolution, your challenge, shall you choose to accept it, is to have a native american state admitted to the union. The earlier the POD the better.
 
It's actually pretty easy, just have the Congress OK the State of Seqoyah in the first few years of the 20th century.
 
It's actually pretty easy, just have the Congress OK the State of Seqoyah in the first few years of the 20th century.

This is a definite possibility, but I doubt it would stay a "Native American state" for long. Like OTL Oklahoma, it would have a relatively high native population and that would be an important part of it's history, but eventually settlers from the east would arrive and change the demographics.
 
If there were no Indian Removal Acts, could the Five Civilized Tribes be made states in their own right?

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Combined the Chickasaw/Choctaw and Cherokee/Creek territories could be made respectable-sized state. Or, since Rhode Island is pretty small, they could be made individual states. The Seminole likewise, although I don't know if they had the same kind of governmental infrastructure (a constitution, a capital) like the Cherokee did.

The problem is getting that passed, especially in the age of Jackson.
 
If there were no Indian Removal Acts, could the Five Civilized Tribes be made states in their own right?

http://www.inkpapermosaic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Indian-Removal.png

Combined the Chickasaw/Choctaw and Cherokee/Creek territories could be made respectable-sized state. Or, since Rhode Island is pretty small, they could be made individual states. The Seminole likewise, although I don't know if they had the same kind of governmental infrastructure (a constitution, a capital) like the Cherokee did.

The problem is getting that passed, especially in the age of Jackson.
One thing I thought about to prevent Indian removal was to make the nullification crisis lead to a civil war, one which Georgia joins in on for some reason. Some said that even if Jackson had upheld the Supreme Court's decision, Georgia (I think it was Georgia anyways though I might be wrong) and the other states would have pushed the Indians out anyway. So maybe with a civil war, after its won by Jackson, the federal government cracks down on the states from doing so and maybe makes a state out of one or two of them?

Not sure if that's ASB or not.
 
British win War of 1812 decisively, Tecumseh gets his nation, it is a British puppet state. The Americans capture the nation and put it as part of the union.
 
The problem is getting that passed, especially in the age of Jackson.

If you could kill slavery by 1812 that would remove the pressure by plantation lords to gobble up as much land as they possibly could, reducing pressure for poorer whites to move into Native-held lands. That in turn might lead to a federal government more interested in keeping the peace than conquering everything in sight.

If that happens it would set a major precedent for the Great Plains and the Rockies, assuming of course the Louisiana Purchase and the Mexican Cession are still added to the United States. It would also lead to a MUCH more crowded flag!
 
LHB,

Interesting idea. However:

1. How to kill slavery that early? The only ideas I've got are either to delay the cotton gin or have British coastal raiding during the War of 1812 free a lot of slaves and destroy plantations to the point the slavers (who weren't as strong at this point without "King Cotton") simply give up.

2. Incorporating sedentary tribes as states might be doable, but the buffalo-hunting nomads like the Comanche would be trickier. They'd need a lot more space to follow the herds, plus their culture revolved around warfare.

3. If the tribes were incorporated into the United States, that would make all their land open for settlement. You'd still see white immigration into Indian lands and displacement unless some arrangement like making the tribal/state government the primary landowner were made.
 
Constitutionally you would probably need an Amendment to have a new category of "in association with the United States" rather than have them be a state - though that invalidates the OP so I should shut up
 
State of Cherokee

I've been entertaining an idea about a timeline, where the Federal Government upholds the Supreme Court ruling regarding the Indian removal. The next administration then grants the Cherokee and the other Civilised Tribes a state of their own. As the proceedings happen during the Amistad case, when the South for the first time started feeling threatened by a North growing ever stronger and since the political proponents of the Cherokee like Major Ridge and his son John were mostly slave owners themselves the State of Cherokee is created as a slave state, thus making it somewhat more palatable for the Southerners, who gain 2 votes in the Senate that way.

History otherwise develops pretty much in the same way it did IOTL and when a quarter of a century later a candidate, whose agenda it is to limit the spread of slavery west, is elected to the White House mostly by votes from the North, the political leaders of the state of Cherokee are faced with the decision whether to secede along with their neighboring slave states or remain loyal to a Union, whose upholding of the Supreme Court ruling (against the demands of those very neighboring states they are considering to join in secession) let them stay in their ancestral land, gave them full citizenship and made the creation their state possible in the first place.

The timeline would be set on the eve of the outbreak of the Civil War and focus on the struggle between the pro-Union (John Ross) and pro-secession (John Ridge) factions among the political leaders in the State of Cherokee.
 
Do States have the right to impede traffic from other states? A recognized Indian State Government woulde have the right to kick off squatters but then they could bring their cases to the Supreme Court to sanction against the Native States
 
The Lenape might be another possibility, though that would required changes during the Revolution. During the Revolutionary War, the Fort Pitt treaty permitted the Delaware and "other tribes who have been friends to the interest of the United States" to form a state and join the others states with congressional representation. Ultimately, this never went anywhere, neither side seems to have really acted on it, but with a few modest PODs, like Chief White Eyes surviving the Revolutionary War and the Lenape not changing sides, and a somewhat more successful assimilationist faction in the US, you might be able to see a moderately sized Indian state in the Northwest Territory.
 
British win War of 1812 decisively, Tecumseh gets his nation, it is a British puppet state. The Americans capture the nation and put it as part of the union.

But iif they do, it wont be any kind of native state.

Even if the transfer happens peacefully, and guarantees are given, the fact is that whits will flood in, outnumber the natives and ddisregard those promises. Look at what happened to Manitoba iotl with guarantees for French, which were written into the provincial constitution. Totally disregarded for a century.
 
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