AHC: More “White” Countries

You could combine two or three divergences to have a "Whiter" Latin America, the first in the XIX Century, just screw over america, keep them divided, without access to the pacific (so you would have to push back your restriction at least 10 years back); and with segregation against catholics or worse, against anyone who is not anglosaxon no matter if it is protestan or not... This would translate into a greater immigration to countries like Mexico, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay and Brazil (Bolivia and Peru in theory are also pretty settleable, but i think they're too away) In countries like Venezuela, have those programs like the one that gave birth to the colonia tovar be more successful (it was not the first case where someone tried to "transplant" european populations here; there were scottish and danish towns here before and after colonia tovar); if successful enough, could be replicated throughout the country and even maybe imitated by countries like colombia or ecuador.

Now into the XX century you would need to screw over Europe badly, and i mean even worse than this timeline implying that ITTL 2019 they won't be near the levels of prosperity they have today and those two world wars would be not unrecognizable but not as ours... I'm thinking in "bloodier" wars, and a WW2 that ends up taken over by a communist power (best candidate could be another soviet union if it rises after the ww1 and russian revolution comes), having oppressed, slowly rebuilding and undemocratic europe could prompt a mass migration from europe into Colonies in africa (i see this more for countries like portugal), or instead a mass migration into south america; in this time without any climatic or health restrictions so this migrations could spill out into the caribbean.

Keep europe communist as long as possible then a break up similar to OTL but with more countries compared to OTL iron curtain (Expanded into France???) that after that break up is still poor and would be sending immigrants into latin america and even maybe east asia (this case without altering drastically the populations of those countries).

Also, play with the definition of "white" so it can accept bigger numbers....
 
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Okay. Most used/use in this forum on purely reference basis. I doubt anyone has anymore intent than that. While I personally don't think there is anything offensive in just using those terms,it is sometimes associated with Old Racial Science. Those terms are on the grey area between reality and fabricated pseudoscience of the past. Mostly just skin deep if anything at all and doesn't matter as far as I'm concerned. And there's no much harm in just using those terms if it's just in this context.
That wasn't a concern of mine, to each their own (I don't know the site's rules on this) as I know there isn't much foul intent behind you using those words. Though I don't use them, as to me they are antiquated.
Anyways, what I was wondering was more akin to what the whole deal with that topic was? It was defining on who is or isn't white for the context of this thread, right?
 
Didn't early 20th century racialists classify the somalis and the ethiopian peoples as "caucasoid" because they were "more advanced" than other parts of Africa? As pointed out early in the thread, racial groups are loosely defined to accomodate them to political needs. As seen with the nazis, if the japanese are our allies they become then honorary aryans, if the croats are our allies they clearly aren't truly slavs.
This site for some reason loves scenarios of colonialism and Rhodesias in Africa and Asia but when one guy posted a challenge to make a part of europe black everybody got really tense. ;)

The Ethiopians, Sudanese and Somalis are in fact part of out of Africa population, I suspect that they lack admixture from Eurasian archaic humans, but that a minor admixture even for most groups outside Africa. As such they’re in general seen as part of the Western Eurasian population, what we usual call Caucasians.

Not only that the Afroasiatic languages (the Semitic and “Hamitic”) originated in the Horn of Africa and spread from there to the Middle East and the rest of North Africa.
 
The Golden Horde end up unifying what today would be Western Russia. Russians, Ukrainians, etc become the main source of slave labor instead of Africans. Meanwhile, several different innovations in food tech means that Europe can supply a larger population. However, this is ignoring both the fact that this is a really... interesting question because "White" is unflinchingly subjective and complex term and the fact that racial demarcations in and of itself came from Europe trying to dehumanize non-Europeans, the POD of after 1850 means that it's basically impossible to have significantly more "white" countries without a lot of really really really brutal genocide.
 
Have Mongols stopped at Altai itself. Various Turkic Khagnates that had assimilated the Scythians and other Caucasian peoples who existed would look somewhat like the Tatars and Bashkirs,both of whom are White. That would include Khazars,Cumans,Kipchaks,etc. Have a small POD to convert them to Judaism. Also,that would help Islam reform in the Middle East without the destruction of the Middle East. The Byzantine empire would stay intact and Anatolia would be Greek in the West and Armenian,Kurdish,Caucasian in the East. All Central Asian Turks would probably look like Tatars and Bashkirs as the earlier populations which included a lot of Iranian people's wouldn't be genocided by the Mongols. Russians,Poles and Hungarians would be more numerous and stronger. With the reformed Islam,now the Arabs,North Indian subcontinent(Afghanistan,Punjab,Kashmir and more Persian settlements) and the Persians would be more numerous and developed. This could lead many of those to be included in "White Sphere". So stopping the Mongols is the most effective and a non-contraversial(on this forum as nobody would dare praise the Mongol empire here because of them being the most genocidal empire) way to get a huge lot more White countries and people in a timeline.
There is a lot of white looking people in the levant, northern Iran and other parts of the middles east, but nobody would consider those people white. Japan and south Korea are clearly industrialized modern societies but nobody would put them together with europe. Heck Greece gets excluded of the western civilization club dispate the same people that exclude them claim greek philosophers as base of their civilization. Nobody in Europe is eager to expand the definition of the "people like them".
 
Maybe Madagascar if the French found it uninhabited. Mauritius, Seychelles, Reunion, St. Helena, Comoros, and Mayotte are also likely.
EDIT: This might be before 1850 but still a suggestion.
 
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