AHC: Monarchist Communism

Uhura's Mazda

Uhura's Mazda

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Inspired by http://mw.micronation.org/wiki/Theodorism

How can Communism/Socialism and Monarchism become compatible? I'm not talking generally, just have one existing monarch 'convert' to the far left and impose some form of Communist state, or, alternatively, have an egotistical leftist revolutionary take a royal title. It need not last longer than two years before the internal contradiction leads to deposition - hey, Stalin lasted decades as an autocratic ruler, why shouldn't he dress up in fancy robes while he's at it? :p

Less flippantly, some possibilities that spring to mind are: Mao Zedong, Kim Il-Sung, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archduke_Wilhelm_of_Austria, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlat_Callimachi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souphanouvong and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simeon_Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. Are any of these even vaguely realistic? How about others?

For the sake of easiness, I'll accept PoDs after 1870, but presumably most will be 20th century.
 
Cook

Cook

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"There they go again, talking like I never existed! Bastards!"
 

Brundlefly

That reminds me of the joke the Icelandic businessmen were doing in "Twin Peaks": What do you get when you cross a Swede with a Norwegian? - A socialist who wants to be king! :D

It could work in countries with established constitutional/parliamentary monarchies. For instance, the major forces in the German-occupied countries in WW2 - Denmark, Norway, Netherlands, Belgium - against the occupation regime are the Communists and the monarchists. After the war, they agree on a compromise by establishing "people's monarchies" with the monarch as head of state and the Communist party in charge of the government.

Or: A Euro-Communist government under Juan Carlos in 1970s Spain.
 

GiantMonkeyMan

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I think it might have been Orwell who suggested that a socialist government in Britain might potentially have to maintain the monarchy as a figurehead without any power in order to retain the support of that section of the working class who still held the old traditions. But communism emerged from the liberal bourgeois movements which were, for the most part, also bourgeois republican movements and it's frankly very hard to think of a way to reconcile the abolishment of classes with the maintenance of privilege.
 

The Cosmonaut Cat

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USSR accepts the ideas of the Mladorossi (for some reason)?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mladorossi
The Union of Mladorossi (Russian: Союз Младороссов, Soyuz Mladorossov) was a political group of Russian émigré monarchists (mostly living in Europe) who advocated a hybrid of Russian monarchy and the Soviet system, best evidenced by their motto "Tsar and the Soviets".
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The Mladorossi believed that the Soviet government, for all its negative ideology, was preserving the Russian state and defending its national interests. They also believed that the October Revolution was merely the beginning of an evolutionary process that would create a new, young Russia (hence their use of the prefix mlado which means "young").... The Mladorossi were also monarchist oriented. They recognized Grand Duke Cyril Vladimirovich Romanov as the legitimate heir of the Russian throne and the latter became supportive of the organization....
While still declaring Stalin as their enemy, the Mladorossi believed that a Tsar could fully function in the Soviet system that was in place at the time in the USSR.
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LordKalvert

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I see no contradiction between the two- Monarchy is a political system and communism is an economic system

Certainly, there were a lot of communistic ideas in Imperial Russia (communal ownership of land for instance) before the war and state capitalism was rampant in Wihelmine Germany
 
Jonathan Edelstein

Jonathan Edelstein

Grenada under the New Jewel Movement retained the British monarch as head of state. I'm not sure why, but they evidently didn't see any contradiction in it.
 
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