AHC: Merge Canada, the USA, and Mexico into one country

Create an ATL in which Canada, the USA, and Mexico peacfully (that is without any wars between any two of the three) merge into one political North American Union before 2010. Try to include how will it be done, why it will be done, what will this new country be called, and what kind of leadership will it have. try to keep PODs from 1860 onwards. Extra respect to anyone who can do this with an independent CSA too.
 
Merge Canada, the USA and Mexico into one country...I had a few ideas before I saw this:

Create an ATL in which Canada, the USA, and Mexico peacfully (that is without any wars between any two of the three) merge into one political North American Union before 2010. Try to include how will it be done, why it will be done, what will this new country be called, and what kind of leadership will it have. try to keep PODs from 1860 onwards. Extra respect to anyone who can do this with an independent CSA too.

I really don't see this happening without an earlier POD or through conquest. For example, the US conquering Canada in the War of 1812, or the British colonies revolting along with American ones in the Revolution...both pre-1860 and involving war.

I also don't know a lot about Mexico or their history.
 
Ja, just about the only scenarios I can think of are 'Draka', 'Naziwank' or 'Sovietwank', where all Europe is overrun by some nasty power. Even then, it would be a heck of a lot more Canada and Mexico joining the US.

So, Just North America? no way I can see.
 
I also don't know a lot about Mexico or their history.
I don't see them joining the USA at all. Unlike what a lot of Ameriwankers want to believe, throughout history Mexicans in general have never been all that keen on being subservient to the USA of all people. And when you consider that Mexico has a hell of a lot more indigenous people than America, it gets tougher from there. They weren't shy about using force to stand up for themselves and they sure as hell would let people with such a spotty record (to say the least) on treating Native-Americans decently take over their country. And by the time where the USA was no longer racist like that I'd think it'd be bit late for annexation of an entire large country like Mexico.
 
A bit of a hard one this, but I'll give it a bash.
The C.S.A. do not lose the U.S. civil war, I don't mean win it. Just hold their own and fight the north to a standstill. 5-10 years later get rid of slavery, and merge back with U.S. by 1910-20.
Being one country, no, but more like the E.U. and call themself's The American Union. Closer with each than the E.U.
What does this will depend on other thing's in the wider world. The U.S. keeping out of a first world war.
If there was another world war North America would have to be on the losing side and fear would drive them together. Wheather it be Germany, Russia or even Japan winning, they would have to have control of all countries south of Mexico.
So, maybe the A.U. and any other places. Maybe Aus, N.Z. and places just north of South Afica being the only other free sates.
 
That one could be a bit difficult.

However, maybe it is possible, as mentioned above, to have some sort of "EU" in North America.

But would be more in the likes of a Latin American EU, where the cultural and language ties are far stronger, which can then align with the "other" EU Canada and US.

But thatr is not so different from what we have today?
 
The problem here is that any super-state is inevitably going to be based off the American model and American dominated if going by such a late POD. That by itself would shoot down any idea.

And I'm quite sure that the Mexicans won't take kindly to take on an even more subservient role in this 'union' for the Imperialists.

Too much differences, too much historical racism. It'll never work unless you forward race rights and equality.

Of course that's only the peaceful option. Joining up the entire continent by force wouldn't be too hard. Manifest Destiny + + and you don't even need to rename the country.
 
Have the United states fight with the central powers during the first world war, and have a disorganized mexico join the allied powers. After a hard fought war america claims mexico and canada. Its workable but their would be partazin conflict in canada for a decade or so and in the former mexico for generations.
 
Honestly, I think this is possible in Before 1900 or Future History. Between 1900 and 2011, its really unlikely.
 

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USA takes all of Mexico down to Durango and Sinaloa. When separatism pops up later, Yucatan and Chiapas especially, the US takes away the rest.

Britain for some reason gets involved in the civil war. US overpowers Britain and takes Canada.
 
I was adding some minor edits to TL-191 in my head before I got to the peacefully part.

Really, I think that an English-speaking US and a Spanish-speaking Mexico are too disparate for any viable merger.
 
A bit of a hard one this, but I'll give it a bash.
The C.S.A. do not lose the U.S. civil war, I don't mean win it. Just hold their own and fight the north to a standstill. 5-10 years later get rid of slavery, and merge back with U.S. by 1910-20.
Being one country, no, but more like the E.U. and call themself's The American Union. Closer with each than the E.U.
What does this will depend on other thing's in the wider world. The U.S. keeping out of a first world war.
If there was another world war North America would have to be on the losing side and fear would drive them together. Wheather it be Germany, Russia or even Japan winning, they would have to have control of all countries south of Mexico.
So, maybe the A.U. and any other places. Maybe Aus, N.Z. and places just north of South Afica being the only other free sates.
Nice.

Sorry I put such a limitation on all of you though by setting a certain date and making it through peacful relations. I just wanted to figure out what the legal systems of such a country would be like if the insperations for the laws all came from the USA, Canadian Confederation, Mexico (Democratic, or even 2nd Empire), and even the CSA. Plus I figured it would be easier to get the legal systems of each of these to fit together into one large one if they came together peacefully. The most interesting outcome I thought of would be haveing a country called the "Confederate Provinces of North America".;)

So to make things simplar I'll lift thoughs limitations and you can choose any sort of date you like, and Ill allow wars too. I'd prefer if the wars didn't lead to much civil strife though but I know thats a tall order.
 
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