The challenge, or contest, is just this:
Who can formulate the greatest conceivable wank of the Hussites?
Who can formulate the greatest conceivable wank of the Hussites?
Poland-Lithuania does look like a promising avenue.Personally, I wold start with Władysław II Jagiełło, king of Poland accepting the Bohemian crown, offered to him by the hussites. The Teutonic Order, the HRE and the pope send large crusade against them. Combined armies of Poland, Lithuania and Bohemia crush the crusade and Poles reconquer Pomerelia with Danzig. Another crusade, sent against Prague, is also crushed by the hussites, with Polish help. Władysław II supports hussite reforms in Poland and organizes Polish infantry in hussite way. One cusade after another is destroyed untill the Catholic Church runs out of volunteers. Meanwhile, the Hussites occupy Silesia and Lusatia and Poles conquer most of the Teutonic State in Prussia. Poles, angry with crusades sent against them, good christians, eagerly convert to Hussitism, despite protests by church high officials. Also Lithuania is interested.
Eventually pope, the emperor and Władysła II agree to negotiate. Poland and Bohemia become a union and keep most of the conquered lands; moderate hussitism is accepted by the pope, as long as Catholics are not persecuted in Poland, Bohemia and Lithuania and Władysław Jagiełło agree not to proselyte hussitism outside the borders.
So a bunch of monarchs embraces Hussitism for some political reason? Who could they be, and what could that reason be?You could conceivably have Hussitism take the place of Lutheranism and start an early reformation.
So a bunch of monarchs embraces Hussitism for some political reason? Who could they be, and what could that reason be?
They did. But what would compel, say, Henry V Or VI to stop persecuting them and promote their faith as the new state church?Didn't England have a Hussite movement? The Lollards, if I'm not mistaken.
Didn't England have a Hussite movement? The Lollards, if I'm not mistaken.
Joan of Arc said:Jesus, Mary
For a long time the rumor and voice of the people have reported to me, Joan the Maiden, that from true Christians you have become heretics, and like the Saracens you have ruined the true faith and worship, and embraced a disgraceful and unlawful superstition; and wishing to sustain and spread it there is not a disgraceful thing nor foolish belief which you would not dare. You spoil the sacraments of the Church, you tear up the articles of the Faith, you destroy the churches, you break and burn the statues which were set up as memorials, you massacre Christians because they preserve the true Faith. What is this fury? Or what rage or madness consumes you? This faith, which God Almighty, the Son, and the Holy Spirit have revealed, established, elevated to power, and glorified a thousand ways through miracles - you persecute this Faith, you wish to overthrow and destroy it. You are blind, but not because you lack eyes or understanding. Do you believe that you will remain unpunished for it? Or are you unaware that God opposes your unlawful efforts and will not permit you to remain in darkness and error? So that the more you indulge yourselves in crime and sacrilege, the more He will prepare great punishments and anguish for you.
As far as I am concerned, to tell you frankly, if I wasn't occupied in the English wars I would have come to see you a long time ago; but if I don't find out that you have reformed yourselves I might leave off fighting the English and go against you, so that by iron, if I can't do it any other way, I will eliminate your mad and obscene superstition and remove your heresy or your life; but if you would prefer to return to the Catholic faith and the original Light, then send your ambassadors to me and I will tell them what you need to do; if you are not willing and if you obstinately resist the spur, remember what damage and offenses you have committed and await me, who will inflict similar upon you with forces human and divine.
Given at Sully the 3rd of March
to the heretics of Bohemia
Pasquerel
It seems Jeanne has sucky luck when it comes to stakes...Do we get to see the great battle where the Hussites decisively defeat the French army of retribution and burn their commander at the stake?
Now that would be an epic battle!
They did. But what would compel, say, Henry V Or VI to stop persecuting them and promote their faith as the new state church?
It seems Jeanne has sucky luck when it comes to stakes...
Alternatively, the angels tell Jeanne d'Arc that the Hussites are right.
Perhaps if another king was eager enough to divorce his wife without Papal consent....
Excellent idea!Alfonso V of Aragon wanted to divorce his first wife in order to marry Lucrezia d'Alagno.
Originally poste d by DracoLazarusDo we get to see the great battle where the Hussites decisively defeat the French army of retribution and burn their commander at the stake?
Originally posted by MeshakhadIt seems Jeanne has sucky luck when it comes to stakes...
There is a book by Konrad T. Lewanowski about Joan of Arc coming to Bohemia with a crusade and Polish inervention etc. But it starts with Queen Jadwiga (Hedwig) surviving until 1430s and having a son...Alternatively, the angels tell Jeanne d'Arc that the Hussites are right.