AHC make Yuan (mongol) China to last until modern day

Yuan can marry into majapahit..because Raden was helped by yuan to get a throne.

I lost count how many times you've brought up Majapahit in everything. If anything, why? They're nobodies to the Yuan. They'd never allow a prince to marry into the Majapahit royal house. ._.
 
I lost count how many times you've brought up Majapahit in everything. If anything, why? They're nobodies to the Yuan. They'd never allow a prince to marry into the Majapahit royal house. ._.
Yes, I was saying a marriage alliance...a Yuan Princess marries a Majapahit Prince not vice versa.
 
Yes, I was saying a marriage alliance...a Yuan Princess marries a Majapahit Prince not vice versa.

Then they would not be Yuan anymore... Besides, the Majapahit would be, and was, practically of zero help in keeping the Yuan in power in case of a Ming revolt, so what's the point?
 
Yes..it is not but Majapahit can help Yuan against Vietnam.

@kasumigenx , this is a question about how the Yuan could survive up to the modern day. I don't think Vietnam was a grave threat to the survival of the Yuan dynasty, though you can go for a PoD to make that work (in another thread). If you want to discuss about the Majapahit, just make your own. Threadjacking is verboten and would likely piss the OP off. ._.
 
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@kasumigenx , this is a question about how the Yuan could survive up to the modern day. I don't think Vietnam was a grave threat to the survival of the Yuan dynasty, though you can go for a PoD to make that work (in another thread). If you want to discuss about the Majapahit, just make your own. Threadjacking is verboten and tends would likely piss the OP off. ._.
Okay, lets go back to the topic, I think Yuan unless they piss off their original allies go with the traditional positions of the Chinese will lose control, they need to act like Qing to stay in power.
 
Sorry to bump, but you could take the POD further back for a stable Mongol China. Have the Khwarezmian Sultan accept the non-aggression pact Chinghis offered (instead of his otl idiocy) and thus prevent the war on two fronts (of which the west took up the good majority of his manpower, including himself and Subatai) he had to fight in our timeline, not to mention the Xia stabbing him in the back. This way, he can focus all of his military power on the Jin, thus conquering them a lot sooner than he did in our timeline.

After conquering all of northern China and Korea well within his lifetime, the Great K'han moves south against the Song by playing up dissent among them, and assuming he lives longer than otl, all of China is united under the K'han. At the end of this, he remains Great Khan until he dies, when Ogedei crowns himself Emperor of China to appease to his new subjects. With China United a lot sooner, and without overextending into Central Asia, the Middle East and Eastern Europe, the Mongols are able to consolidate their rule in China better, extensively involving in Chinese bureaucracy. As time goes on, they sinify till they are merely Chinese with Mongol roots, while remaining progressive like the K'han of old. This way, they are able to resist westernisation efforts when the powers of the west (whatever they are without Mongol invasions there) come knocking.
 
Sorry to bump, but you could take the POD further back for a stable Mongol China. Have the Khwarezmian Sultan accept the non-aggression pact Chinghis offered (instead of his otl idiocy) and thus prevent the war on two fronts (of which the west took up the good majority of his manpower, including himself and Subatai) he had to fight in our timeline, not to mention the Xia stabbing him in the back. This way, he can focus all of his military power on the Jin, thus conquering them a lot sooner than he did in our timeline.

After conquering all of northern China and Korea well within his lifetime, the Great K'han moves south against the Song by playing up dissent among them, and assuming he lives longer than otl, all of China is united under the K'han. At the end of this, he remains Great Khan until he dies, when Ogedei crowns himself Emperor of China to appease to his new subjects. With China United a lot sooner, and without overextending into Central Asia, the Middle East and Eastern Europe, the Mongols are able to consolidate their rule in China better, extensively involving in Chinese bureaucracy. As time goes on, they sinify till they are merely Chinese with Mongol roots, while remaining progressive like the K'han of old. This way, they are able to resist westernisation efforts when the powers of the west (whatever they are without Mongol invasions there) come knocking.

But they cannot resister westernization forever, they are just too behind technologically...
 
It's hard to say what they would be like technologically though, as they may not be as conservative as the Qing, who deliberately suppressed modernisation to keep themselves in power.
 
It's hard to say what they would be like technologically though, as they may not be as conservative as the Qing, who deliberately suppressed modernisation to keep themselves in power.

The Qing never did that

Jane E. Elliott criticized the allegation that China refused to modernize or was unable to defeat Western armies as simplistic, noting that China embarked on a massive military modernization in the late 1800s after several defeats, buying weapons from Western countries and manufacturing their own at arsenals, such as the Hanyang Arsenal during the Boxer Rebellion. In addition, Elliott questioned the claim that Chinese society was traumatized by the Western victories, as many Chinese peasants (90% of the population at that time) living outside the concessions continued about their daily lives, uninterrupted and without any feeling of "humiliation".
 
If the Yuan doesn't stop all the wonderful tech and science and welfare of the SOng (minus foot binding) and instead advances it or helps it advance, then they will be liked.
 
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