AHC: Make WWI end by Christmas

SuperZtar64

Banned
With a POD after September 1, 1914, have WW1 end on or before December 25th of the same year. Is this possible?
 

Whitewings

Banned
It might be possible, just barely, if, after the Christmas Truce of that year, the troops on both sides basically say, "This war is stupid and pointless and we're not fighting it any more," though honest I think that's a fair ways into ASB territory for sheer implausibility of the higher-ups not shooting "cowards."
 
It might be possible, just barely, if, after the Christmas Truce of that year, the troops on both sides basically say, "This war is stupid and pointless and we're not fighting it any more," though honest I think that's a fair ways into ASB territory for sheer implausibility of the higher-ups not shooting "cowards."

It would take an overwhelming majority of troops to refuse to fight after Christmas to make this work, and it wasn't until much later in the war that troops largely decided that the war was total bullshit. Something would have to happen quickly in 1914 to accelerate the thoughts on both sides that the war is total bullshit. And frankly, if that happens, shit is going to get very real back home.
 

BooNZ

Banned
With a POD after September 1, 1914, have WW1 end on or before December 25th of the same year. Is this possible?
If the British stay neutral and Bulgaria enters early, the prospects of an Franco-Russian victory are about zero. At that time the mainstream CP war goals were comparatively trivial - Serbia under the bus and probably reparations to Germany.
 
With a POD after September 1, 1914, have WW1 end on or before December 25th of the same year. Is this possible?

Possibly with a few good PODs and some luck. Say the Irish question pops off just before WW1 and distracts the UK, keeping them out. One of those unlikely things that is a wrench in the works, the exact wrong thing at the wrong time for the Entente. Maybe India gets a case of rebellion or something else happens. Mix and match multiple such things as needed.

For whatever reason - bribery, a different political calculus, whatever - the Italians honor their commitments and join the Central Powers in '14. They don't have to do that much, but another front and headache puts more pressure on France and increases the perception that France is in over their heads. Additionally, a few of the independent neutrals decide to hop into the Central Powers early as a result of the zeitgeist seeming to doom France,. Purely opportunistic sort of things, people looking to get slices out of the Entente.

Toss in that the Eastern Front goes better overall in '14. Nothing gigantic here, just enough to make the Central Powers look stronger here and Russia weaker. It probably don't need to be a lot.

With no UK and a few more breaks, the Germans do better in the West. Maybe they take Paris, maybe they don't. Let's say they do for the moment. France is further against the wall and things look ugly for them. Russia's not making much progress on the Eastern Front, the UK had to bow out due to internal strife and lots of secondary powers are trying to get a piece of the pie. With everything going wrong in this war and no sign of immediate relief from the Russians, naked pragmatism takes the day and France manages to wrangle a decent peace deal. It's the legendary short war in the West, the dream of every German general before 1914. With France out, Russia faces political realities and decides to make a deal, wrangle a few concessions about Serbia in exchange for border adjustments, a bit of money and the political capital to say they stood up for the Balkan Slavs.

In a way it feels like it's reproducing 1940 in 1914 for Germany, but sometimes countries get on a lucky streak. No one besides Austria-Hungary and maybe Germany likes it, but Serbia gets it on the chin and Christmas 1914 passes in peace. Future Christmases not so much since the underlying tensions haven't been addressed, but that'll probably stave it off for at least a few years, if not longer.
 
With a POD after September 1, 1914, have WW1 end on or before December 25th of the same year. Is this possible?

Literally one day before the PoD start date (August 31), the Germans came very close to encircling the French 5th Army under Lanzerac by taking the Aisne Bridges. Had such occurred, a hole would've been torn in the French lines that they could not readily replace and the force ratios would've then allowed the Germans to, at the least, encircle Paris (if not capture it outright) and win the Race to the Sea thereafter. In such circumstances, the French would've been forced to seek terms and the British will likely be forced to do such as well soon after.
 

FBKampfer

Banned
Assuming no flexibility on POD, you're basically looking at Italy joining on the CP side, AH not marcing into Serbia's artillery training range, and some French dreadnought's taking a few torpedos.

France is getting absolutely hammered on two fronts, the Germans are just outside Paris, Serbias already down, Bulgaria just jumped in, the Italians and the Austrians are about to break out of the Mediterranean, and Russia just knocked its frontline armies all the way into next Thursday by bashing their heads into a brick wall.

The Allies look pretty boned, the CP have already achieved their war goals, Britain's questioning how good of an idea this was, and Kaiser Willy offers peace on the terms of no Serbia and extending the German border another 50km into French territory.
 
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