AHC: Make the USA and Britiaon Allies after a CSA victory

BlondieBC

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Here's an interesting take on the consequences of Turtledove's TL-191. The writer suggests that economics would eventually demand that the UK flip-flop and seek an alliance with the US.


From here.

Another route to this dilemma is for the USA to make a lasting peace with the CSA and then annex Canada. Yes, the UK tended to flip allies fairly fast if needed, but I think the USA holds a grudge after it loses.
 
Another route to this dilemma is for the USA to make a lasting peace with the CSA and then annex Canada. Yes, the UK tended to flip allies fairly fast if needed, but I think the USA holds a grudge after it loses.
How would the US annexing Canada make the UK want to allign with them? Wouldn't that make the US an UK mortal enemies?
 
Here's an interesting take on the consequences of Turtledove's TL-191. The writer suggests that economics would eventually demand that the UK flip-flop and seek an alliance with the US.



From here.

GB is not the problem the US is. The US would be a high degree of pissed over the war and would not be easily bought off. It would take MAJOR concessions from GB, quite possibly requiring to declare war on the CSA and blockading it for the US to agree to the alliance. In TTL assuming it has to worry about both the US and Germany it might well try to buy off Germany as the US might well be damn near impossible.
 
Here's an interesting take on the consequences of Turtledove's TL-191. The writer suggests that economics would eventually demand that the UK flip-flop and seek an alliance with the US.

that's all true, but in HT's timeline, there is a second war in the 1890's that pretty much destroys that tactic... the CSA/UK/French juggernaut crushes the Union armies, raids CA, and generally kicks their butt far and wide. So the UK is going to be stuck with having the US as an enemy. Can they conceivably make friends with Germany or at least keep them as a neutral?
 
How would the US annexing Canada make the UK want to allign with them? Wouldn't that make the US an UK mortal enemies?

Yes, it would. The problem is the UK backing the CSA would also make them mortal enemies. The only way this is possible is for GB not to be involved in the CSAs victory or at least 50 and probably more years passed by.
 
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