AHC: Make the UK Lose the Falklands Conflict

As it says on the tin, the UK must lose the Falklands Conflict. In OTL it goes without saying that the UK won the 'war' in just over two months with not even 2k dead on both sides. It was a good, quick war. Just make it not that.

Bonus points for length and casualty count because who doesn't like it when a "Over by Christmas" war takes years?
 
Great Britain agrees to give up all claims to the Falkland Islands peacefully. Otherwise without some major luck on the part of Argentina, Great Britain is going to win.
 
Wait a year or so. Royal Navy loses the carriers (Invincible to Australia and Hermes to India) and the Vulcans leave service (possibly even sold to Argentina https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/603285/Plane-crazy-UK-plan-sell-Argentina-bombers) - no air support for the task force. War is either a damp squib as the British don’t go, or a slaughter if they do.
The problem with that is that it is very unlikely that the Argentine Junta would have lasted long enough to carry it out. The invasion was carried out to distract the public from troubles at home.
Of course I have an even longer term plan which is to continue as they were and eventually the Falklands will be handed over as a cost cutting measure by the British Government.
 
We sell Argentina a few dozen more Exocet so they can spam missiles at stand-off ranges against a pretty shitty anti-missile defence capability.
 
Someone less decisive than Thatcher at the helm might delay the response, perhaps, allowing the Argentinians to place more missiles on the islands themselves and in general put themselves into a better position?
 
Wait a year or so. Royal Navy loses the carriers (Invincible to Australia and Hermes to India) and the Vulcans leave service (possibly even sold to Argentina https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/603285/Plane-crazy-UK-plan-sell-Argentina-bombers) - no air support for the task force. War is either a damp squib as the British don’t go, or a slaughter if they do.

Great Britain agrees to give up all claims to the Falkland Islands peacefully. Otherwise without some major luck on the part of Argentina, Great Britain is going to win.

The problem with that is that it is very unlikely that the Argentine Junta would have lasted long enough to carry it out. The invasion was carried out to distract the public from troubles at home.
Of course I have an even longer term plan which is to continue as they were and eventually the Falklands will be handed over as a cost cutting measure by the British Government.

We sell Argentina a few dozen more Exocet so they can spam missiles at stand-off ranges against a pretty shitty anti-missile defence capability.

Someone less decisive than Thatcher at the helm might delay the response, perhaps, allowing the Argentinians to place more missiles on the islands themselves and in general put themselves into a better position?

The central issue with making Argentina win is that making the British task force fail is different than winning the war. Doing the former might be possible. Argentina had exactly five Exocets (a weapon system first introduced in 1973) during the entire conflict, so that's an obvious POD. They could have simply ordered 200 earlier than IOTL, and seeing as how of the three times they launched them they scored two ships sunk and one badly damaged, the results can be extrapolated. That could have forced the task force back, but what happens then? Britain has other options. Nuclear is probably off the table (though it would seem to be the ultimate trump card), but Britain still has a potent submarine force. They could, say, blockade the Argentinian coast around a declared exclusion area (and the instant they announced they were doing that, every ship insurer would cancel policies for anything in that area) and focus on using their subs to sink Argentina's warships. Given the UK's nuclear submarine force and the ability to stage out of St. Helena, they could logistically sustain it, and they would wipe the floor with the Argentinians that way. In the end, that would probably force Argentina into submission (remember, the whole invasion was launched to distract from their domestic economic troubles, and with sanctions and the blockade those would have come back with a vengeance once the euphoria wore off.

The really big thing, though, is U.S. intervention. Now, it was important for the UK to take the lead on defending its sovereign territory from a third world country for the sake of its international image and reputation and to prevent anyone else from getting similar ideas. Guatemala had been making noises about invading Belize pretty hard in late 1970s, and Iraq threatened to invade Kuwait (when it was really a British protectorate) in 1961, with further border skirmishes in the 1970s. If the world saw Argentina successfully carve a piece off of Britain's own sovereign territory, it might have emboldened some bad actors. But the bottom line is that if they proved unable to do the job, the U.S., especially under Reagan, was not going to allow a third rate power to carve off territory from a nuclear NATO superpower and hand their forces consistent battlefield defeats. That would have been TREMENDOUSLY destabilizing at a very dangerous time in human history. Reagan made it clear what the U.S. was going to do IOTL with his offer to hand over the USS Iwo Jima if necessary.

If push really, really comes to shove, the U.S. basically launches Operation Urgent Fury in the Falklands instead of Grenada.
 
The central issue with making Argentina win is that making the British task force fail is different than winning the war. Doing the former might be possible. Argentina had exactly five Exocets (a weapon system first introduced in 1973) during the entire conflict, so that's an obvious POD. They could have simply ordered 200 earlier than IOTL, and seeing as how of the three times they launched them they scored two ships sunk and one badly damaged, the results can be extrapolated. That could have forced the task force back, but what happens then?

Thing is, if the Taskforce is repulsed with heavy loses, that will bode ill for the Tatcher government. The Conservative and Unionist Party might have been willing to go all the way for the Falklands but will they be in charge after Tatcher goes? Will Labour go all the way? Will the British public?

They could, say, blockade the Argentinian coast around a declared exclusion area (and the instant they announced they were doing that, every ship insurer would cancel policies for anything in that area) and focus on using their subs to sink Argentina's warships. Given the UK's nuclear submarine force and the ability to stage out of St. Helena, they could logistically sustain it, and they would wipe the floor with the Argentinians that way. In the end, that would probably force Argentina into submission (remember, the whole invasion was launched to distract from their domestic economic troubles, and with sanctions and the blockade those would have come back with a vengeance once the euphoria wore off.

Militarily this could be done and pretty easily at that. The question is one of politics though.
 
OTL Did the US Navy send supply ships to the South Atlantic Ocean?
Did they “spill” a few million gallons of fuel over board?
 
OTL Did the US Navy send supply ships to the South Atlantic Ocean?
Did they “spill” a few million gallons of fuel over board?

A US Tanker full of FF Jet Fuel was anchored off of Ascension Islands at a time when the airport their became the busyest on the planet
 
Thing is, if the Taskforce is repulsed with heavy loses, that will bode ill for the Tatcher government. The Conservative and Unionist Party might have been willing to go all the way for the Falklands but will they be in charge after Tatcher goes? Will Labour go all the way? Will the British public?

Militarily this could be done and pretty easily at that. The question is one of politics though.

Honestly, we don't really know but British governments fell in both world wars and the struggle went on. Even if the SDP ended up in charge that obviously didn't mean the war was going to end.

The politics ensured that there was absolutely no way in hell anything was going to happen except Britain getting the islands back.
 
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As it says on the tin, the UK must lose the Falklands Conflict. In OTL it goes without saying that the UK won the 'war' in just over two months with not even 2k dead on both sides. It was a good, quick war. Just make it not that.

Bonus points for length and casualty count because who doesn't like it when a "Over by Christmas" war takes years?
...absolutely no way in hell anything was going to happen except Britain getting the islands back.
Since you didn't ban it explicitly, simply have WWIII start in europe and then have the (mostly unhurt) Argentinians invade the Falklands....GB forces are somewhat degraded already from use.... Casualties over 2K are assured!
 
Jeane Kirkpatrick slips mind control powder into the drinks of the entire Administration and gets Reagan to threaten war against Britain if they defend their territory.
 
Simple - instead of bombs to attack the British fleet the Daggers and Skyhawks use Rockets which while not likely to cause serious damage to a modern warship are very likely to do enough damage to mission kill it and are far more likely to actually hit than bombs

So far more British ships are hit and have to be withdrawn resulting in too few ships to escort and guard the landings
 
I know this gets into the politics of the Junta and just how much longer could they last without a significant external distraction but somehow get them to delay the operation for a year, because supposedly in another year some number of the RN ships that participated in the operation would have been retired.
 
I know this gets into the politics of the Junta and just how much longer could they last without a significant external distraction but somehow get them to delay the operation for a year, because supposedly in another year some number of the RN ships that participated in the operation would have been retired.

There is an even better plan - that would result in all of the kudos and virtually none of the danger to the Junta that would appeal to the South American Mindset

Invade the islands - plant the flag, change all of the road signs and then before the task force can get close......go home...shrug.....claim to have tweaked the lion's tale....proved 'our point'....happy to let the UN do the 'Right thing'....are we amazing or WHOT???

But yes had they waited the RN would have been down a carrier - Endurance was to have been sold (penny pinching to the extreme) and the Royal Marines were going to be reduced.

Interesting story line as to how the British would muddle through that one (as I am sure we would)
 
The other obvious POD is bombs that go 'Boom'

13 Bombs hit ships but did not explode - 1 ultimately did destroying HMS Antelope and killing Staff Sergeant James Prescott of the Royal Engineers who was trying to defuse it.

OTL this was due to the fear of the Sea Dart missile system forcing the Argentine pilots to fly too low

My understanding is that the Navy Skyhawks bombs were setup correctly to fuse when used at low altitude so maybe the Argentine Navy and Airforce talk to each other.......no you are right ASB what was I thinking
 
Even if the bombs do explode they're still targeting the wrong ships. It's the transports & supply ships that need to be sunk to prevent the British landing sufficient forces to re-take the islands.
The Argentines need more "Atlantic Conveyors" rather than "Antelopes".
 
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