samcster94
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What can be done to make Oregon, and to a lesser extent, Washington, be ultra-conservative??? This can be done at any point since statehood, but my goal is to have them be closer to Idaho OTL politically.
The movement to create the state of Jefferson succeeds drawing off parts of southwestern Oregon making it conservative. As for the rest of Oregon...What can be done to make Oregon, and to a lesser extent, Washington, be ultra-conservative??? This can be done at any point since statehood, but my goal is to have them be closer to Idaho OTL politically.
What can be done to make Oregon, and to a lesser extent, Washington, be ultra-conservative??? This can be done at any point since statehood, but my goal is to have them be closer to Idaho OTL politically.
If you really want to run with the environmentalism aspect, you could get an eco-fascist undercurrent to state politics. I am, of course, referring to a real political ideology and not the canard that Wikipedia presents. In the least racial sense, a need to maintain a low population would militate against acceptance if large-scale immigration.
Nice scenario, sort of fits in with A Darker Shade Of Green.
But, much as I enjoyed that thread, unfortunately(from the POV of realizing these outcomes), I think environmentalism was always going to end up allying with the pluralistic left, which means there will be a pretty substantial overlap between people who want to protect the rivers and forests, and those who want to welcome immigrants with open arms. You really need to go way back for your POD to have anti-immigration environementalism be the dominant tendency in the movement.
It would have to be an ultra-Malthusian movement. Maybe even pro-one child policy.
They actually were, if not ultra-conservative, at least a bit more Republican than the nation as a whole as recently as 1976.
But to make them as conservative as Idaho you'd have to have a nuclear attack demolish Seattle and Portland, leaving the more conservative eastern part of each state. (Even that might not be enough, though, because in Idaho you have the added factor of a larger Mormon population.) Incidentally, Idaho wasn't always conservative: not only did FDR carry it four times but it went for Truman in 1948 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Idaho,_1948 and was fairly close as late as 1960. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Idaho,_1960 Goldwater's near-victory there in 1964 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Idaho,_1964 was the first indication of how far the state had swing to the right.
Speaking of real ideologies......If you really want to run with the environmentalism aspect, you could get an eco-fascist undercurrent to state politics. I am, of course, referring to a real political ideology and not the canard that Wikipedia presents. In the least racial sense, a need to maintain a low population would militate against acceptance if large-scale immigration.
Weren't they for a period? Weren't they the areas that pushed for internment of the Japanese? I know that in Canada it was BC that pushed for it, as well as for head taxes on Asian immigrants.What can be done to make Oregon, and to a lesser extent, Washington, be ultra-conservative??? This can be done at any point since statehood, but my goal is to have them be closer to Idaho OTL politically.
What can be done to make Oregon, and to a lesser extent, Washington, be ultra-conservative??? This can be done at any point since statehood, but my goal is to have them be closer to Idaho OTL politically.
Weren't they for a period? Weren't they the areas that pushed for internment of the Japanese? I know that in Canada it was BC that pushed for it, as well as for head taxes on Asian immigrants.