I'm not sure if this has been done yet. In any case, enough time has passed for a spoiler laden discussion to be acceptable. I very much enjoyed the movie as did most of my friends. Just of the top of my head, I can't really think of any way to make the movie any better. It did what it needed to do. That's why I thought this would be an interesting idea for a thread. Find a way to make the movie even better.
AHC: Make The Force Awakens Even Better
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Give it a better sense of passage of time, especially between hyperspace jumps.
The editing of that final jump with Rey going to the island planet was silly.
More silliness was them watching the republic capital blow up. Where exactly is the that planet? Just blow it up, and make the force sensitives feel it.
The editing of that final jump with Rey going to the island planet was silly.
More silliness was them watching the republic capital blow up. Where exactly is the that planet? Just blow it up, and make the force sensitives feel it.
What about hiring a filmmaker that could break away from the Lucas bashing constituents?
Biggest, biggest issue that dominates every issue in The Force Awakens--make it not so "safe". And by safe, I mean don't just make A New Hope all over again. The "girl abandoned on desert planet", I'll go along with, the cantina scene knockoff, I'll go along with, but at some point, you aren't just referencing the original film but completely ripping it off. When you make a blatant ripoff of the Death Star and then play it up to be some huge threat and then deal with in exactly the same way (well, fusing the Death Star interior scenes and trench run scenes) in far inferior way (what a near-complete lack of tension the "trench run" had in The Force Awakens compared to the original!), you are going to have a huge flop on your hands.
I was going along with the movie, ignoring its flaws, until the final third of it. There really was something there, but when you tie everything together so poorly, you're left with a lot of disappointment.
Yeah, that was quite the missed opportunity that seems especially odd. You would've thought it was Coruscant if not for a single, easily missable line of dialogue I didn't even notice until I saw it the second time. I'm going to ignore the "hyperspace superlaser" thing because it is science fiction, after all.
The other KEY flaw would be the "power levels". Even if Rey is supposed to ultra-elite, the film does a terrible job of showing why she should be able to beat a trained force-wielder like Kylo Ren. The battle should be basically one-sided, going by what the film had shown. But this supposedly "elite but not fully trained" warrior like Kylo Ren loses badly to a stormtrooper (who may or not be force-sensitive, but got his ass kicked by "TR8R" earlier) and someone who has barely even picked up a lightsaber before. The supporting material gives reasons as to why they won, but that should be the film's job in showing that! Instead all you see is Kylo Ren hitting his stomach and blood dripping because of Chewbacca's bowcaster shot from earlier, very ambiguous for something that should be important. And after all, it isn't like wounds mean everything when going up against apparently untrained foes.
It shouldn't really be too hard to make The Force Awakens better.
I was going along with the movie, ignoring its flaws, until the final third of it. There really was something there, but when you tie everything together so poorly, you're left with a lot of disappointment.
Yeah, that was quite the missed opportunity that seems especially odd. You would've thought it was Coruscant if not for a single, easily missable line of dialogue I didn't even notice until I saw it the second time. I'm going to ignore the "hyperspace superlaser" thing because it is science fiction, after all.
The other KEY flaw would be the "power levels". Even if Rey is supposed to ultra-elite, the film does a terrible job of showing why she should be able to beat a trained force-wielder like Kylo Ren. The battle should be basically one-sided, going by what the film had shown. But this supposedly "elite but not fully trained" warrior like Kylo Ren loses badly to a stormtrooper (who may or not be force-sensitive, but got his ass kicked by "TR8R" earlier) and someone who has barely even picked up a lightsaber before. The supporting material gives reasons as to why they won, but that should be the film's job in showing that! Instead all you see is Kylo Ren hitting his stomach and blood dripping because of Chewbacca's bowcaster shot from earlier, very ambiguous for something that should be important. And after all, it isn't like wounds mean everything when going up against apparently untrained foes.
It shouldn't really be too hard to make The Force Awakens better.
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Easy.
No "Star Killer Base." Super lame version of the death star. A more conventional war without a planet destroying weapon, like the fleets battling each other in return of the jedi, would have been great.
Larger role for Mark Hamil.
Perhaps a story about the growing decadence of the old cast, showing how their bad decisions have given opportunity for a dark side resurgence.
No "Star Killer Base." Super lame version of the death star. A more conventional war without a planet destroying weapon, like the fleets battling each other in return of the jedi, would have been great.
Larger role for Mark Hamil.
Perhaps a story about the growing decadence of the old cast, showing how their bad decisions have given opportunity for a dark side resurgence.
Nix Starkiller Base. Instead, the threat is a Star Destroyer carrying planet killing missiles, in a manner reminiscent of nuclear submarines. It not only makes it less Death-starry, but also allows for several X-Wings to take it out plausibly as opposed to an entire planet. Tone down Rey somewhat. Much better pacing is needed.
The 'safety' issue metalinvader665 brought up is by far the biggest problem with the film (not that there aren't others.) The charm of the cast helps disguise the issues but it doesn't solve them.
As flawed as the Prequels were they tried to do something different from the original trilogy. That didn't always come off well - Attack of the Clones is actively bad - but it gave the films a unique visual and setting style that make them feel much more daring and inventive than The Force Awakens.
As flawed as the Prequels were they tried to do something different from the original trilogy. That didn't always come off well - Attack of the Clones is actively bad - but it gave the films a unique visual and setting style that make them feel much more daring and inventive than The Force Awakens.
Just have Snoke be Palpatine's Force Ghost. Fans have put up with far more stupidity regarding a resurrected Palpatine in Dark Empire, and it'd be a stronger link to the OT.
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Make the planet that was blown up Coruscant. It's a win win. People who hate the prequels will enjoy seeing the most prominent planet of the latter three movies blown to pieces and those who love them will cry about it. I for one, raised with the prequels, never understood the significance of Alderaan other than being the planet that Leia grew up in, and didn't care when it was destroyed by the Death Star. That's just me though.
Don't be afraid to show more of the New Republic. In fact, nix the Resistance (honestly, that word reminds me of the Terminator films more than anything else) and just have it be a New Republic vs First Order conflict, similar to how Timothy Zahn wrote Heir to the Empire.
One thing I liked about TFA was the hollow victory/bittersweet ending.
Sure, they blew up the Deathstar on Crac- sorry Starkiller base, but
it seems the Republic has been crippled military and utterly decapitated
politically.
Borrow less from earlier plots certainly, but keep the downer element of
the ending.
Maybe the First order is but one of many Imperial splinter groups.
Perhaps there was no superweapon, and the unprovoked strike against
an Imperial Star system is what finally unifies what's left of the
Empire against the Republic.
And 30 years is a long time, maybe enough to train at least one person
up to a Jedi Knight. Maybe some rumours of other survivors, scattered,
leaderless, directionless, themselves chasing rumours of the last Jedi Master.
Sure, they blew up the Deathstar on Crac- sorry Starkiller base, but
it seems the Republic has been crippled military and utterly decapitated
politically.
Borrow less from earlier plots certainly, but keep the downer element of
the ending.
Maybe the First order is but one of many Imperial splinter groups.
Perhaps there was no superweapon, and the unprovoked strike against
an Imperial Star system is what finally unifies what's left of the
Empire against the Republic.
And 30 years is a long time, maybe enough to train at least one person
up to a Jedi Knight. Maybe some rumours of other survivors, scattered,
leaderless, directionless, themselves chasing rumours of the last Jedi Master.
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