AHC: Make the Civil Rights Movement Take Up Arms

E. Burke

Banned
There were a couple incidents OTL, like some blacks using rifles they got from the NRA to chase off some Klansmen and that time the Lumby Indians broke up a Klan rally and then did a straight-up war dance with captured Klan gear. Both of these were in North Carolina, with the latter leading to the discrediting of the NC Klan (or at least its leader, who resigned and ended up selling cars).

But the first one was straight-up self-defense and the latter could be written off as at best reckless endangerment--the Indians shot out the lights at the rally and panicked the Klansmen into running. Nobody was actually hurt.

Of course there's Greensboro, also in North Carolina.
 

E. Burke

Banned
All I will say about Northern Ireland is that it is a completely different context from the Deep South.

Alright.

Except, the moment police stations are attacked, the Federal government comes in saying "that's enough". Anybody who doesn't stop finds themselves getting life in Federal Prison.

Even if they are directly tied to illegal killings?
 

Japhy

Banned
Even if they are directly tied to illegal killings?
Yes because that's how rule of law works. The FBI would investigate but without popular Northern support, which would be lost as soon as "race war" started such crimes would be ignored most likely or face half-hearted trials at best.
 
Even if they are directly tied to illegal killings?

What do you mean? Vigilante killings are not protected and given the circumstances of the south in the pre-civil rights era (and lets be honest, now), killing in self defense would look like a shaky defense for a black person or any civil rights activist.

teg
 

E. Burke

Banned
Yes because that's how rule of law works. The FBI would investigate but without popular Northern support, which would be lost as soon as "race war" started such crimes would be ignored most likely or face half-hearted trials at best.

Yea, so repression would come down hard. Does that inevitably break the guerillas?
 
Yea, so repression would come down hard. Does that inevitably break the guerillas?

The Communist insurgency in Malaysia was crushed in part because it was limited only to the Chinese community, a minority in the country and not to my knowledge a popular one.

A black insurgency in the South is a lot more crushable than the KKK was, and the First Klan *did* get crushed.
 

E. Burke

Banned
The Communist insurgency in Malaysia was crushed in part because it was limited only to the Chinese community, a minority in the country and not to my knowledge a popular one.

A black insurgency in the South is a lot more crushable than the KKK was, and the First Klan *did* get crushed.

What about if it included more white college kids? Like if it built off the civil rights workers murders and a more bloody freedom summer?
 
What about if it included more white college kids? Like if it built off the civil rights workers murders and a more bloody freedom summer?

The moment cops and/or their families are targeted by either side all sympathy will collapse
 
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