AHC: Make Technology advance as quickly as possible

Interesting, I have been led to believe that living in Egypt was what made you Egyptian, sort of an open-nationalism. Not "This specific type of person is the best and no others deserve to live".

I perhaps shouldn't have used ubermensch as a descriptor, as I have read my Niezche.

No, the Egyptians very much had an us-and-them mentality, to the point where they believed that unless you were buried in Egypt, you wouldn't resurrect in the next life. I'd highly recommend getting The Great Courses' lecture series, The History of Ancient Egypt if you want to know more about Pharaonic Egypt.
 
No, the Egyptians very much had an us-and-them mentality, to the point where they believed that unless you were buried in Egypt, you wouldn't resurrect in the next life. I'd highly recommend getting The Great Courses' lecture series, The History of Ancient Egypt if you want to know more about Pharaonic Egypt.

I'd forgotten about that burial detail! (Got to get rid of that for my idea to work IMO, why go abroad if it means you won't resurrect?!)

I'll have to take a look at that.
 
Honestly, with Alexander, your best bet is to have him move further into India and Central Asia, and then have him die. Cultural fusion will likely spur technological development, as you'll see more fusion with Indian culture and some sort of fusion with Chinese culture
 
Sorry about not responding to the thread, I had an idea where the Vasconic peoples were able to turn Variolation int a sort of "rite of passage," and then outbred the local cultures and spread across Europe. (Longer write up needed but I am making a worlda which I might drop in the main map thread in a week or so, though that is if my ideas don't putter out. St)

But what Egypt seemed to lack for me was strong debate on philosophy, which left it wealthy, but unwilling to innovate. An Egypt with overseas territory, and a strong natural philosophy tradition however, can focus on solving problems in their new territories, repeatedly - with the wealth of Egypt to basically fund universities centuries if not millennia early.r

I know that Egypt was very interested in Greece, and even held land in some parts of Crete. Maybe have an Oceanic Egyptian culture take over southern Greece and maybe even Athens.

The "you don't resurrect outside of Egypt" issues has a simple solution: Egypt in itself can expand, and thus colonies are part of Egypt and people there can resurrect as long as they die on *Egyptian soil. In fact, this could turn into an Evangelistic Imperialism, where Egypt must expand so that all people can resurrect.
 
I know that Egypt was very interested in Greece, and even held land in some parts of Crete.

Source? I haven't heard of it and I love all kinds of ancient Egypt related trivia...

The "you don't resurrect outside of Egypt" issues has a simple solution: Egypt in itself can expand, and thus colonies are part of Egypt and people there can resurrect as long as they die on *Egyptian soil. In fact, this could turn into an Evangelistic Imperialism, where Egypt must expand so that all people can resurrect.

Nice solution *clap clap* :p :mad:
 
The "you don't resurrect outside of Egypt" issues has a simple solution: Egypt in itself can expand, and thus colonies are part of Egypt and people there can resurrect as long as they die on *Egyptian soil. In fact, this could turn into an Evangelistic Imperialism, where Egypt must expand so that all people can resurrect.

This could have an interesting twist.

Soldiers need to be able to resurrect, so you can resurrect as long as the soil is made Egyptian (otherwise, who'd join the expansionist forces only to be render to oblivion?). That would be great for camaraderie, "Gotta conquer that down else Tommy isn't going to heaven!". The problem then is that you have to explain how a soul sort of hovers outside of oblivion, and why that only happens for soldiers. So no.

A better solution would be that dying in battle has sort of an Egyptian-Valhalla kind of deal. Sure, resurrect if you die on Egyptian soil, but die in glory in battle and you get ushered into heaven by divine beings and don't need no feather test against your soul. - Which would be great in terms of convincing ex-cons to become soldiers. The 'Penal Legion' could be a powerful force, moreso than most, because dying in battle is their ONLY way into heaven. I could dig that, especially paired with an idea of evangelical charity "We will improve your lot" that could help drive innovation.

The idea of the brutality of the Penal Legion, rapidly followed by the 'Charity Works' of Waset is a bit of psychological whiplash, but it works as a good conquest 1-2 combo. Horror at being the Enemy of Egypt, but happy at being aided/part of Egypt.
 
Generally advances have taken place through competition, social, economic, military.
Most large early Empires tended to reach a certain point and stagnate as they had no outside near same or advanced powers for competition to spur them on. best bet is in antiquity before religion slowed the pace in the west, along with earlier contact with china and other cultures.

many early notable inventions if found to have a practical use would spur on more advanced notions. sometimes the right place at the right time is better than just discovering something.

great example. The Commodore Amiga, years ahead of everything but no mass killer application and lousy PR/marketing. same for the Steam engine and Di Vinci who had vison but no marketable application there in.
 

Saphroneth

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What would a world that "teched up" this fast look like? What would the cultures be like?
I know others have probably addressed this point, but we have no way of knowing what the world would be like. It would be hard to predict 1890 British (or US) culture based on 1860, and we're talking about replaying the entirety of history from the days of behaviourally modern humans and forcing it through periods of heavy technological development (i.e. upheaval)
 
I know others have probably addressed this point, but we have no way of knowing what the world would be like. It would be hard to predict 1890 British (or US) culture based on 1860, and we're talking about replaying the entirety of history from the days of behaviourally modern humans and forcing it through periods of heavy technological development (i.e. upheaval)

If I may *cough*ahem

ALL HAIL OUR GLORIOUS KEMETIC UNION. KEMET HAS INTO SPACE. KEMET 2 : THE REDDENING IS A GLORIOUS PART OF THE UNION. ATMOSPHERIC CONSTRUCTION PROJECT UNDERWAY. ALL HAIL PHARAOHBOT, HIGH ADMINISTRATIVE AI. MAY HIS ANALYSIS PROTECT AND SAVE ALL FROM IGNORANCE AND POVERTY.
 

Saphroneth

Banned
Just to give some idea of what I mean, behavioural modernity is usually considered to have taken place some time around 50,000 years ago. The current interglacial started around 11,000 years BP.
Egypt was unified about 5150 BP.

In other words, given the strictures of the PoD, it is entirely likely the PoD is further in the past than the founding of Egypt by a length of time greater than the length of time between the founding of Egypt and today. It seems entirely possible that whatever culture may arise in the Nile river basin would be concerned with the One God that is the River, or be fragmented into half a dozen feuding city-states.
Heck, they could worship a blind thundergod with dozens of independent floating eyes.
 

Saphroneth

Banned
Father is watching. When it rains he is crying, and the clouds are his innumerable eyes! Beware his furious stare!
Actually, the reference I was making was more Discworld - but that's a bit closer to the kind of oddness you could get in a religion that diverged so many thousands of years ago.

I dislike predestinationism.
 
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