Is the humidy that much of the problem factory workers in england got heatstroke to if I remember. 19th century industy was a shitty place to be my guy, The bosses just cared about profit.because it takes time to heat up the furnaces and cool them down.
You cannot shut down and come back after hours later and start production again.
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The problem was not that bad in the cool climate of England. It was a problem for the printing company New York's Sackett & Wilhelms Lithographing and Printing Company causing swelling in the paper when it was being printed.
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unprincipled peter
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Low humidity in the north of OTL Mexico/southern US, where there is coal and Iron. A lot of desert heat though. Most of the highlands are not humid. I'm guessing that the furnaces themselves are hotter than the environment.
*Nuclear war after 1965 or so
*Santa Anna shot at Alamo
*Spain keeps Nutca and passes it along to Mexico
*CSA wins, US balkanizes with several more civil wars, Mexico becomes an attractive refuge and retakes significant territory at request of local populations
*Articles of Confederation never repealed, various proto-state governments Mexico controls North America save for sliver north of Rappahanock and east of Michigan
*Santa Anna shot at Alamo
*Spain keeps Nutca and passes it along to Mexico
*CSA wins, US balkanizes with several more civil wars, Mexico becomes an attractive refuge and retakes significant territory at request of local populations
*Articles of Confederation never repealed, various proto-state governments Mexico controls North America save for sliver north of Rappahanock and east of Michigan
The only way your getting Mexico as a world power is if America don't exist/ is balkanized, and the social structure of the Spanish Empire is successfully changed to more resemble America's and sticks before the independence from Spain.
It also requires the population to not stagnate as badly as it did IOTL. In the centuries before and the years after independence, the population was about 6 million, in 1865 in was 8 million, in 1900 it was 13.6 million. This demographic stagnation is what decided the outcomes of the wars with America well before they began.
America had 23 million people in 1850. Adding the fact Mexico's wasn't even within shouting distance of the industrializing sectors of America.
The colonial elites that ruled as small tyrants crushed rebellions even before independence from Spain.
To change anything requires the feudal powers and the institutions change to resemble those in America.
Remember during the period after independence, Mexico had over 50 presidents, none were elected, all ruled through military juntas, and were too busy enriching themselves at the expense of the rest of the nation.
The state was so week, the French invaded while America was unable to enforce the Monroe doctrine, and today, the victory against the French is celebrated as the Cinco de mayo.
Mexico was a broken dysfunctional kleptocratic mess, and it was these forces that kept crushing revolt after revolt, rebellion after rebellion, leaving Mexico in ruins, that is also why people didn't immigrate to Mexico much, after already considering the lack of opportunities under Mexico's political & social structure.
So much as to change for Mexico to be a great power.
It also requires the population to not stagnate as badly as it did IOTL. In the centuries before and the years after independence, the population was about 6 million, in 1865 in was 8 million, in 1900 it was 13.6 million. This demographic stagnation is what decided the outcomes of the wars with America well before they began.
America had 23 million people in 1850. Adding the fact Mexico's wasn't even within shouting distance of the industrializing sectors of America.
The colonial elites that ruled as small tyrants crushed rebellions even before independence from Spain.
To change anything requires the feudal powers and the institutions change to resemble those in America.
Remember during the period after independence, Mexico had over 50 presidents, none were elected, all ruled through military juntas, and were too busy enriching themselves at the expense of the rest of the nation.
The state was so week, the French invaded while America was unable to enforce the Monroe doctrine, and today, the victory against the French is celebrated as the Cinco de mayo.
Mexico was a broken dysfunctional kleptocratic mess, and it was these forces that kept crushing revolt after revolt, rebellion after rebellion, leaving Mexico in ruins, that is also why people didn't immigrate to Mexico much, after already considering the lack of opportunities under Mexico's political & social structure.
So much as to change for Mexico to be a great power.
unprincipled peter
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The hard part is the social/economic/political structure change. After that, the industrialization and population change. A Mexico set up to succeed (the hard part) should certainly be able to rival OTL USA limited to east of the mississippi. At one point, every thing west of it was Spanish. This ATL Mexico taking advantage of all that space/resources will dominate the continent.
Even as OTL, with an independence that didn't destroy the country, and a stable political system, Mexico could still rise to the occasion and be a major North American power. USA at that point was not predestined to take half of Mexico. The odds were in their favor, and Mexico had a tough road ahead, but things were not predestined.
The problem even then is a geographic one, the US has the great lakes has it's industrial heart land and the Mississippi to tie the country together. Mexico has no comparison to that geographic advantage even if you equal out the social/economic/political front, the demographic difference, and the industrial strength.
Even if Spain never gave France back Louisiana and France never sold it to America. No one but America could populate and control this region.
Mexico can't win this war alone, and unless France & Britain back Mexico over America, the war is still lost.
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unprincipled peter
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The Mississippi does not tie USA together. It allows ocean access for the Great Lakes region. The heart of USA for at least a century after independence is the eastern seaboard, which is isolated from center of the continent. Circa 1800, the river was one way traffic. With the advent of steamboats, travel north was possible. Prior to steam rail, travel west of the river was limited. Prior to steam powered locomotion, USA had the same geographical problems Mexico had.
Circa 1800, Mexico was not predestined to spiral downward while USA wanked ever upwards (with a brief blip during the civil war). Both had hurdles to overcome.
It is a false mantra that only USA can populate and hold west of the Mississippi. OTL, with the way colonization/independence shook out, USA held the advantage. However, there is nothing innate about holding the eastern seaboard that predestines it to control west of the Miss. There is nothing about holding the entire Miss valley that predestines control of the Rockies and west.
The Mexican colonization severely disadvantaged the colony at independence, but it was the path during and after independence that doomed it. As I said, changing this path is the hard part. Don't change it much and 9 times out of 10, USA likely dominates. Change it enough so that stability and (even minor-moderate) growth happens post 1800, Mexico can easily chart a course where it can hold its own against the USA. At a minimum, USA does not engage in the Mex-Am war and does not take OTL US southwest or Texas. A Mexico holding all OTL territory at independence certainly has all resources necessary to be a power.
IF, for example, Carlos III wakes up in 1784, sees a danger in North America, and summons his son, Gabriel (who, from the accounts I've read, is a good candidate to be a leader) and tells him "You're the new King of New Spain", history is going to shake out a LOT differently. Or, IF Carlos III's first son was born able minded, so we don't get the feeble minded Carlos IV as Spain's next King. Or if Bernardo Galvez hadn't died (poisoned?) and instead had led Mexico to a sane independence.
*Have Santa Anna die in battle at the Alamo
*Texas gains independence, gains British protection per OTL in 1841. Texas and Mexico continue arguments over Western Territories
*Oregon territory feud goes hot in 1848 and US loses after three years. All of Oregon goes to UK including claims to southern Alaska (61 degrees) along with half of Maine and the whole of the Louisiana Purchase west of the Continental Divide.
*Oklahoma forms as a truly native native American nation under British protection about the same time
*Mormon settlers move into Salt Lake Valley as news of gold discoveries in California reach Mexico City, which dispatches over a third of its small army to the area around San Francisco.
*American Civil War begins as per roughly OTL time, preventing any westward ambitions from taking root.
*Mexico avoids defaulting on debt via California gold, intervention by European powers is avoided. Conservative elements succeed in bringing about monarchy regardless with Maximillian I still becoming (Constitutional) Emperor and working *with* Benito Juarez.
*California attracts immigrants and Spanish-speaking population is quickly outnumbered. Pio Pico continues as able governor into 1880s.
*Mexican monarchy attracts additional investment and uses gold money to fund railways, industry, and agricultural development. By 1870 a railway connects San Francisco with Mexico City.
*Province of Deseret formed out of New Mexico, Mormon settlers push into southern Wellington (Idaho), southeastern Palmerston (Oregon), and northern Houston (Colorado).
*US begins to top out without further frontiers, its West remains fertile but poor farming territory while its east remains dependent on materials that often require importation. Appalachian mining becomes far more prolific and secured from interference as coal is a prime US export.
*Mexico initiates Panama Canal after French fail to finish it, subsequently annexes Panama. Cebtral America gradually restored to Mexican statehoods by legal, illegal, and military means.
*Mexican shipbuilding becomes a focus both for naval development and industrial planning, by 1900 they have the best tier 2 navy in the world and produce just under a tenth of the world's new merchant shipping. Crown Prince Karl marries Crown Princess of Brazil.
*Mexico aids Cuba and Puerto Rico against Spain in 1898 after the explosion of the Sonora in Havana harbor. Subsequently each becomes an autonomous province of Mexico while the Philippines are directly annexed. The Kingdom of Hawaii also grants Mexico basing privileges at Pearl Harbor as a way of retaining some measure of independence.
*Colombia and Mexico go to war over a dispute regarding Darien. Venezuela and Ecuador join Colombia, it's a near-draw but by 1907 Barranquilla becomes a Mexican enclave. US toys with joinings but wisely decides to stay out of it as its navy is still rebuilding.
*Cascadia is given independence by the UK in the same legislation that grants South Africa independence. Immediately a trade bloc begins to form which will grow to include Mexico, Texas, the US, Spain, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, and Ecuador.
*Texas gains independence, gains British protection per OTL in 1841. Texas and Mexico continue arguments over Western Territories
*Oregon territory feud goes hot in 1848 and US loses after three years. All of Oregon goes to UK including claims to southern Alaska (61 degrees) along with half of Maine and the whole of the Louisiana Purchase west of the Continental Divide.
*Oklahoma forms as a truly native native American nation under British protection about the same time
*Mormon settlers move into Salt Lake Valley as news of gold discoveries in California reach Mexico City, which dispatches over a third of its small army to the area around San Francisco.
*American Civil War begins as per roughly OTL time, preventing any westward ambitions from taking root.
*Mexico avoids defaulting on debt via California gold, intervention by European powers is avoided. Conservative elements succeed in bringing about monarchy regardless with Maximillian I still becoming (Constitutional) Emperor and working *with* Benito Juarez.
*California attracts immigrants and Spanish-speaking population is quickly outnumbered. Pio Pico continues as able governor into 1880s.
*Mexican monarchy attracts additional investment and uses gold money to fund railways, industry, and agricultural development. By 1870 a railway connects San Francisco with Mexico City.
*Province of Deseret formed out of New Mexico, Mormon settlers push into southern Wellington (Idaho), southeastern Palmerston (Oregon), and northern Houston (Colorado).
*US begins to top out without further frontiers, its West remains fertile but poor farming territory while its east remains dependent on materials that often require importation. Appalachian mining becomes far more prolific and secured from interference as coal is a prime US export.
*Mexico initiates Panama Canal after French fail to finish it, subsequently annexes Panama. Cebtral America gradually restored to Mexican statehoods by legal, illegal, and military means.
*Mexican shipbuilding becomes a focus both for naval development and industrial planning, by 1900 they have the best tier 2 navy in the world and produce just under a tenth of the world's new merchant shipping. Crown Prince Karl marries Crown Princess of Brazil.
*Mexico aids Cuba and Puerto Rico against Spain in 1898 after the explosion of the Sonora in Havana harbor. Subsequently each becomes an autonomous province of Mexico while the Philippines are directly annexed. The Kingdom of Hawaii also grants Mexico basing privileges at Pearl Harbor as a way of retaining some measure of independence.
*Colombia and Mexico go to war over a dispute regarding Darien. Venezuela and Ecuador join Colombia, it's a near-draw but by 1907 Barranquilla becomes a Mexican enclave. US toys with joinings but wisely decides to stay out of it as its navy is still rebuilding.
*Cascadia is given independence by the UK in the same legislation that grants South Africa independence. Immediately a trade bloc begins to form which will grow to include Mexico, Texas, the US, Spain, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, and Ecuador.
Power Vacuum, and you just killed the guy who is trying to fix up Mexico, Properly. That war just started because of slavery. He is the middleground between Liberals and conservatives,
Texans wanted to be part of the USA
Would the Mexicans agree to recognize a leader placed with them at gunpoint, and why would Juarez join him, They have different views and beliefs that is why he did not
Santa Anna is the Key to Mexico's potential in the early days. If he decided to seriously rule Mexico during the Centralist republic. He is a popular figure, and the fact that he is the middle ground between Liberals and conservatives is one key to stability, Having him placed there instead of someone on the other group, just solves the problem i think. He's gonna be like a Porfirio diaz figure, that will try fix mexico