AHC: Make China as big as possible (NECRO: DO NOT POST!)

How big can China get?


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Guardian54

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The one big development that could allow a much bigger China would probably be semaphore towers i.e. rapid communications more complex than smoke/fire signals.

Rapid communications is very, very crucial to administrating an empire.

I'd see basically everything east of Bengal being slowly engulfed over a period of 2000 years starting with Han China, and probably subduing the Steppes nomads into ranching and mining as well. And then once you break past the Malay barrier, discovering Australia isn't too hard. And then follow the Polynesian stories into the Pacific... and maybe go from Penglai (New Zealand has 3 main islands, as per Penglai... even though OTL it referred to Okinawa of the Three Mountains) east to find Fusang. Sure, the overseas possessions would have much larger communications lag, but they can be considered peripheral regions established in the name of "spreading Han civilization to the barbarians and uplifting the world" (just don't pay too much attention to the trade balance and all the raw material extraction, ahem).

The sciences would take great advances on discovering the seasons' differences in the Southern vs Northern hemispheres, I'd think.
 
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EDIT: WHAT THE HELL, THERE WAS NO NECRO WARNING ON THE REPLY BOX???? Sorry then...

The one big development that could allow a much bigger China would probably be semaphore towers i.e. rapid communications more complex than smoke/fire signals.

Rapid communications is very, very crucial to administrating an empire.

I'd see basically everything east of Bengal being slowly engulfed over a period of 2000 years starting with Han China, and probably subduing the Steppes nomads into ranching and mining as well. And then once you break past the Malay barrier, discovering Australia isn't too hard. And then follow the Polynesian stories into the Pacific... and maybe go from Penglai (New Zealand has 3 main islands, as per Penglai... even though OTL it referred to Okinawa of the Three Mountains) east to find Fusang. Sure, the overseas possessions would have much larger communications lag, but they can be considered peripheral regions established in the name of "spreading Han civilization to the barbarians and uplifting the world" (just don't pay too much attention to the trade balance and all the raw material extraction, ahem).

The sciences would take great advances on discovering the seasons' differences in the Southern vs Northern hemispheres, I'd think.
Pretty sure it only gives the necro box if it’s 6 months or more, and this was 4.
 
How can we make China control as much land as they possibly can?

We all know about the great extent of today's PRC (Even though ROC is the real China...). I mean, how could you ever forget China proper, Sinkiang, Manchuria, and Tibet? Of course, there's also Mongolia, but they're independent nowadays.

But China used to be so much more expansive. Here's just a list of what they once owned:

Southeastern Siberia/Buryatia and Outer Manchuria (Yuan, Qing)
Korea (Yuan)
Vietnam (Han, Jin, Liang, Sui, Tang, Ming)
Burma (Yuan, attempted Qing)
Further East Turkestan (Almaty, Talas, etc.) (Qing)
Mongolia (Tang, Yuan, Qing)

Can anyone else think of other lands the Chinese once owned?
Sinecized Persia, East Africa
 
Well since there is 0 necro warning:
I imagine Mings beating Qing, then having a period of steam-led industrialization from 1700-1830, and eventually they control:
Australia
Phillipines
Korea
Eastern half of modern Kazakhstan (Including Astana and Almaty)
A large piece of modern day Russia including land above lake Baikal and chita and ullan ude
Burma, Vietnam, Laos, and Thailand
Indonesia
Tanzania
South Africa
Nambia
Botswana
Algeria

Ill later give stats about 1914 ming china
 
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