Thomas1195
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https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ritish-liberal-party-flag-flying-high.128222/Can you provide a link to those mate?
https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...ritish-liberal-party-flag-flying-high.128222/Can you provide a link to those mate?
Hey guy, I had two potential PODs:What with the qualified return to the Gold Standard and the Welsh Wizard back in the cabinet,
I think we might have established the basic premise of a TL.
Hey guy, I had two potential PODs:
First, everything like OTL, but have Asquith refusing to back Labour in 1923, and was invited by the King to form a new government could be a good start.
Second, Asquith was broke by his son's death and retired voluntarily in 1916, with Lloyd George succeeding but still retaining the Liberal dominated Coalition cabinet, while habing Montagu, another Liberal, take the Ministry of Munitions position.
He could be replaced by Herbert Samuel like OTL, or Asquith make a comeback, but I believe the former would be more likely. Besides, in this case he would not be labelled as a party traitor, so he could retain enough credibility to continue. However, the public work programs would began as early as 1921 in this scenario.So what happens post war when his affair's exposed? Does he retain leadership of the party with Asquith retired?
He could be replaced by Herbert Samuel like OTL, or Asquith make a comeback, but I believe the former would be more likely. Besides, in this case he would not be labelled as a party traitor, so he could retain enough credibility to continue. However, the public work programs would began as early as 1921 in this scenario.
Well, OTL the whole Liberal cabinet resigned when Asquith resigned (or actually forced to resign). If now Asquith retired voluntarily, then Lloyd George would be very likely to succeed him. There were some conflicts over conscription issues, however, it would not be so terrible for them like what happened in OTL.Man the OTL history of the liberal party's complicated. So many splits. With Asquith out of the political picture, does the initial split even occur?
Is the earlier public works program the result of this not happening? Who would the responsible minister be?
IOTL the conservatives withdrew their support in the wake of several scandals in 1922, and subsequently formed a government.
Does this government continue the nascent public works scheme?
No, only in Yellow BookI did not know that. Was nationalising it on any party manifesto back then?
How about building the "Homes Fit For Heros" people were promised. It gets men into work and their wages are a source of income for other industries.Another works could be rebuilding existing railways as well as building new ones. IOTL, Britain did not replace bulhead rails by flat-bottomed rails until 1950s. These works would be a very big boost for mass production of steel (and coal).
You would need a POD before December 1916. Geddes Axe was unavoidable as long as the Tories dominated the Coalition. Lloyd George actually had an even bigger public work plan than HFFHs, but was opposed by the Tories. Asquith retiring voluntarily would allow LG to turn his party into a group of radicals.How about building the "Homes Fit For Heros" people were promised. It gets men into work and their wages are a source of income for other industries.
You would need a POD before December 1916. Geddes Axe was unavoidable as long as the Tories dominated the Coalition. Lloyd George actually had an even bigger public work plan than HFFHs, but was opposed by the Tories. Asquith retiring voluntarily would allow LG to turn his party into a group of radicals.