AHC: Make Britain lose everything in WWI

In this reality, it was Germany that had all its colonies taken and its main territory taken away. But in this timeline, make Britain lose World War I, lose every single colony, and even lose some land in Britain itself. POD of 1900.
 
The US fully commits to the Central Powers side somehow. USN suffers at first but it outbuilds the Royal Navy later and starts to act in the Caribbean, Mediterranean and Asia. Japan and Italy switch sides, Egypt is invaded and the Ottomans are given a second wind in the Middle East. Then somehow, a hardline government takes over the UK, decided to turn the war and refuses to surrender. India enters in full revolt and the remaining dominions declare neutrality.

Russia is defeated as OTL. France asks for an armistice. Then everyone seeks and destroys the RN remainders and the UK only surrenders when the first German and American marines land on the island.

Result: The UK loses eveything, colonies are taken by US, Germany, Japan, Italy and Ottomans. India and Egypt become independent, dominions become republics, Ireland is fully liberated as a republic, Falklands go to Argentina, even Siam is offered a few pieces. Then years after the treaty, Scotland secedes.

The trick if to find a POD that commits the US into really hating the UK that much, and with a 1900 POD is difficult, given that the entire UK policy for the US was about befriending it. Difficult but I'm sure it's not impossible.
 
In this reality, it was Germany that had all its colonies taken and its main territory taken away. But in this timeline, make Britain lose World War I, lose every single colony, and even lose some land in Britain itself. POD of 1900.
I haven't a single POD, and the following scenario is just a fast and incomplete thought.

Perhaps some kind of revolution in Great Britain which is not accepted by the Colonial Governments and Dominions. So the Colonies and Dominions are de facto and after some time de jure independent.
After that, you need separatism in Great Britain, which is maybe supported by an opposing Great Power (Scotland, Ireland or Wales maybe?)

To get this kind of revolution, Britain could loose some different WW1 against more enemies (Italy and Japan in the Central Powers, USA probably never joins the war, earlier Russian Revolution or a French mutiny). The peace deal only demands for Great Britain to cede some minor colonies. But the war disrupts the British economy. The collapse of the economy leads to the British Revolution.
 
The British Empire was a hodgepodge of different arrangements, from the almost independent Dominions through proxy rule and treaty arrangements to direct rule; for example Malaya had the Federate Malay State, un-federated states and the Straits Settlements/Singapore all with different relationships with Britain. If something drastic happens these sort of indirect arrangements will fall over or quickly change to suit the circumstances.

As for the war itself the CP could have done better in northern France to put more pressure on Britain as well as against Egypt and the Mid East which would have knock on effect much further afield in Africa and Asia.
 

Coulsdon Eagle

Monthly Donor
Well, it's easy! Just have a successful Sea Lion, right?

Edit: Wait, that was stupid.

Well, perhaps not totally:)

The Kaiser does have a navy - a real one - which is one step above Hitler's.

There is no Royal Air Force (at least not in 1914-15) to defend Britain's skies, and certainly no aerial threat to the High Seas Fleet. If anything the Germans have the edge in the air with Zeppelins (OK -in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king!).

So the chances of a successful invasion, whilst still minimal (logistics will kill off any grand invasion) are at least several measures above the USM.


On the OP I thoroughly agree with rush4you - you need a fully committed USA on the Central Powers's side. Unless Jellicoe does lose the war in an afternoon (possible, but not probable) I don't see any way Britain can be brought down without the USN.
 
The US fully commits to the Central Powers side somehow. USN suffers at first but it outbuilds the Royal Navy later and starts to act in the Caribbean, Mediterranean and Asia. Japan and Italy switch sides, Egypt is invaded and the Ottomans are given a second wind in the Middle East. Then somehow, a hardline government takes over the UK, decided to turn the war and refuses to surrender. India enters in full revolt and the remaining dominions declare neutrality.

Russia is defeated as OTL. France asks for an armistice. Then everyone seeks and destroys the RN remainders and the UK only surrenders when the first German and American marines land on the island.

Result: The UK loses eveything, colonies are taken by US, Germany, Japan, Italy and Ottomans. India and Egypt become independent, dominions become republics, Ireland is fully liberated as a republic, Falklands go to Argentina, even Siam is offered a few pieces. Then years after the treaty, Scotland secedes.

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Insider

Banned
Have the plan to attack Baltic at go. RN would die not in one glorious battle, but by death of thousand cuts.
 
The trick if to find a POD that commits the US into really hating the UK that much, and with a 1900 POD is difficult, given that the entire UK policy for the US was about befriending it. Difficult but I'm sure it's not impossible.

I just stumbled upon this:

https://books.google.com/books?id=sK8HE1xY5cgC&pg=PA83

Wew lad. Yeah, that's your POD. Groupthink fail leads the Brits to attempt intervention during the Civil War. OTL relations were already chilly because of British and Canadian attitudes during the war. That book notes even an offer of mediation would be seen as a great affront. Had they had ACTUALLY INTERVENED, it'd piss Murica off so bad that it could cement King George's role as The Great Satan in American consciousness. You tried to pick apart our country so now we pick apart yours.

Lol ITTL the hawks will demand abolition of the British crown.
 
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