Have the Ottoman Empire survive as long as possible. Bonus points the more lands it keeps/conquers.
EDIT: 1821 borders preferably
EDIT: 1821 borders preferably
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AHC: Longest surviving Ottoman Empire
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What Period would you like? 1914 borders? 1911 borders? 1877 borders? 1821 borders? 1804 borders?
You name it and I'll come up with that.
1299 borders—in perpetuity, of course.
On a serious note, which of the borders that you suggested would be the easiest for the Ottomans to control?
Sure, but some were probably less defensible than others, or had pressing claims by powerful foes (Hungary to Austria, for instance), making them less “safe.”
Does Muhamed Ali's Egypt count as independent for the sake of this discussion?
Given Russian pressures and a lack of large-scale Muslim settlement/conversion, holding onto Wallachia/Moldova seems hard without PODs well before OTL 1821.
I guess the one in 1877. Beat the Russians in the war which is really possible. And then you have breathing space. The part of the Balkans they owned were 43% Islamic, qnd growing.
1821... fairly easy. Mahmud II doesn't kill the patriarch and thus not attracting the European attention. Instead of fighting Ali Pasha, who is already in his 80s, focusses on the Greeks.
I'll have to agree with you there. One could compare it to ancién regime France -- the Capetian or Capetian-derived monarchy survived for over 750 years without interruption. I can see the Ottomans lasting for the same period. But of course, that's not counting the structural modifications to the monarchy's politics that happen along the way.