AHC: Latin Dark Ages-Migration Period

The challenge if you choose to accept it, is with a POD in the year 400, to meet the following challenges:
*You do not have to meet every single criteria, meet the ones you feel most possible.

This challenge is generally to create a more Neo-Latin Europe than otl Middle Ages due to changes within the Dark Ages and Fall of Rome.

-The situation of Gaul, wherein the Germanic Franks simply replaced the Roman rulers in Northern France, occurs as otl.

-In connection to the above, create this same happening within Illyria, Pannonia, Dalmatia, Africa and Iberia.

-Eliminate the need for or the arrival in large numbers of Germanic conquerors and migrations into Britain.

-Slow the migrations of the Slavs or inhibit their migrations as much as possible.

-Latinize as many German tribes as possible, how could this be done?

-With reference to Germanic and Latin, Latinize the state apparatus of those Germanic tribes that conquer Rhaetia (Swiss lands currently), Noricum (Austria) and the Rhineland.

-Make Christian identity and conversion, almost synonymous with some sort of Latin culture and thus, Latin proliferates downward within the peasantry of newly Christian lands more effectively.

Once these are achieved to some degree by 700, fulfill these by 1000.

-Expansion of British forms of Latin expand into more diverse languages with several having more similarity to that of continental Latin developing in Gaul, Germania or Italy; others developing with larger substrates of Celtic languages. Following this, British Latin states could expand slowly into Ireland and the north of Britain, how could we see more variety in Latin develop from these new conquests?

-Gallo-Latin develops as otl, with langue d'Oïl and langue d'Oc separately forming. However, with the Latinization of the Rhineland, Latin based tongues develop that are a new branch, say Germano-Latin, with substantial substrate of Germanic and hundreds of Germanic features and slang words.

-Within Iberia, we see the distinction of Catalan and Occitan develop as otl, however, removing Arabic conquests for the moment; a deep distinction in Iberia develops linguistically. The northwest and far north, represent a Latin language with large amounts of Celtic additions and vocab similar to Latin, imagine the Gallician language. To the central parts of Iberia, a Latin tongue develops with additions of their Visigothic rulers whom have consolidated a power in central Iberia. This Latin tongue holds less Celtic additions and differs from those to the east and south. In the South and much of Portugal, a Luso-Baetican group develops with much more similarity to traditional Latin and say Sardinian. This linguistic division at fundamental levels and constant Visigothic strife, creates a fractured Iberia easily exploited by invaders and impossible to unite locally.

-In the area of Rhaetia, a Germano-Rhaetan elite emerges who rule over varied Germanic and Latin subjects across various mountain villages and towns. This develops into a separate language grouping within Latin that inhibits rule from the Rhineland Latin to the north.

-Nearby in Noricum-Pannonia, a Latin develops which absorbs various different peoples by making Christianity one with Latinization. Thus, various invaders arrive and mold into the culture, creating an extremely diverse Latin language sphere, with villages speaking many different languages, yet all faintly Latin based.

-In the Balkans, Dalmatian develops as otl, without Slavic overtaking. However, over time, Latin in the region of Illyria diverges between the southern islands and city states that become more eclectic and eccentric in their use of Latin, and possibly becoming bilingual with Latin found in Venice and other areas. Whilst the north is a mix of various Latin, Slavic and Germanic villages, who converge toward a new language similar to the happening in Gaul.
 
The challenge if you choose to accept it, is with a POD in the year 400, to meet the following challenges:
*You do not have to meet every single criteria, meet the ones you feel most possible.

This challenge is generally to create a more Neo-Latin Europe than otl Middle Ages due to changes within the Dark Ages and Fall of Rome.

-The situation of Gaul, wherein the Germanic Franks simply replaced the Roman rulers in Northern France, occurs as otl.

-In connection to the above, create this same happening within Illyria, Pannonia, Dalmatia, Africa and Iberia.

-Eliminate the need for or the arrival in large numbers of Germanic conquerors and migrations into Britain.

-Slow the migrations of the Slavs or inhibit their migrations as much as possible.

-Latinize as many German tribes as possible, how could this be done?

-With reference to Germanic and Latin, Latinize the state apparatus of those Germanic tribes that conquer Rhaetia (Swiss lands currently), Noricum (Austria) and the Rhineland.

-Make Christian identity and conversion, almost synonymous with some sort of Latin culture and thus, Latin proliferates downward within the peasantry of newly Christian lands more effectively.

Once these are achieved to some degree by 700, fulfill these by 1000.

-Expansion of British forms of Latin expand into more diverse languages with several having more similarity to that of continental Latin developing in Gaul, Germania or Italy; others developing with larger substrates of Celtic languages. Following this, British Latin states could expand slowly into Ireland and the north of Britain, how could we see more variety in Latin develop from these new conquests?

-Gallo-Latin develops as otl, with langue d'Oïl and langue d'Oc separately forming. However, with the Latinization of the Rhineland, Latin based tongues develop that are a new branch, say Germano-Latin, with substantial substrate of Germanic and hundreds of Germanic features and slang words.

-Within Iberia, we see the distinction of Catalan and Occitan develop as otl, however, removing Arabic conquests for the moment; a deep distinction in Iberia develops linguistically. The northwest and far north, represent a Latin language with large amounts of Celtic additions and vocab similar to Latin, imagine the Gallician language. To the central parts of Iberia, a Latin tongue develops with additions of their Visigothic rulers whom have consolidated a power in central Iberia. This Latin tongue holds less Celtic additions and differs from those to the east and south. In the South and much of Portugal, a Luso-Baetican group develops with much more similarity to traditional Latin and say Sardinian. This linguistic division at fundamental levels and constant Visigothic strife, creates a fractured Iberia easily exploited by invaders and impossible to unite locally.

-In the area of Rhaetia, a Germano-Rhaetan elite emerges who rule over varied Germanic and Latin subjects across various mountain villages and towns. This develops into a separate language grouping within Latin that inhibits rule from the Rhineland Latin to the north.

-Nearby in Noricum-Pannonia, a Latin develops which absorbs various different peoples by making Christianity one with Latinization. Thus, various invaders arrive and mold into the culture, creating an extremely diverse Latin language sphere, with villages speaking many different languages, yet all faintly Latin based.

-In the Balkans, Dalmatian develops as otl, without Slavic overtaking. However, over time, Latin in the region of Illyria diverges between the southern islands and city states that become more eclectic and eccentric in their use of Latin, and possibly becoming bilingual with Latin found in Venice and other areas. Whilst the north is a mix of various Latin, Slavic and Germanic villages, who converge toward a new language similar to the happening in Gaul.
Catalan would not form without resettlement of spanish march..I think Aragonese might be spoken there instead.
 
Catalan would not form without resettlement of spanish march..I think Aragonese might be spoken there instead.

Is that so? I was under the impression that Catalan was related to Occitan and was the development of the Latin spoken on the coastal cities and villages of eastern Iberia. Is this assumption incorrect?
 
I know this is a blunt-instrument answer, but; Get the Germans to move east more, and have some genius/lucky circumstances in Britain- maybe even "German mercenaries not found, too busy colonizing the Dniepr".
 

Brunaburh

Gone Fishin'
Is that so? I was under the impression that Catalan was related to Occitan and was the development of the Latin spoken on the coastal cities and villages of eastern Iberia. Is this assumption incorrect?

It appears to have its roots in the variety of proto-Occitan exported to the Catalan Counties around Charlemagne's time. There is a reasonably sharp border between Navarro-Aragonese and Catalan, only a few villages of intermediate varieties separated them in about 1800. This suggests trans-pyrrenean importation was the cause of Catalan's similarity to Occitan rather than a more normal dialect chain.
 
Well, to give an, at least partial, answer I think that to nearer from the requested scenario by the OP I would say that a double pod would be required first would be needed:
One option could be that the triumph, temporarily, of Arianism in the Roman west cannot be reversed by later emperors and therefore there will be no sectarian and / or doctrinaire differences between Germanic bands to settle among the Romanized peoples and at the same time accelerating their acceptance and romanization both among themselves and eventually among those who had remained in Germania itself.

Another alternative option to the previous one could be that Arianism did not achieve its position of prominence and that the conversion of the Germans was avoided that were first to the Arianism.
Another necessary and complementary Pod of the above options should be to avoid the formation of the steppe empire of the Huns and / or their triumphant expansion into Western Europe by subjecting and / or pushing the Germanic tribes settled in present-day Ukraine, Poland and eastern Germany.

Without these two crucial factors, there would have been no major obstacles for both a rapid assimilation and / or for both the eventual recovery of the empire in the West and / or for the formation of more intensely romanized / assimilated successor states that expand towards Germany. 'States / kingdoms' which I suppose they would be more similar to the one that we're trying to create by Theodoric the Great, in Italy than the one formed by Clovis in Gaul.

Regarding the Iberian peninsula and the Languedoc, and without being a linguist, I would say that without the Arab invasion / domination that isolated and profoundly influenced both the formation and its evolution and / or peninsular linguistic differentiation from the Sermō Vulgāris...the TTL dialects and / or languages resulting from the aforementioned evolution / differentiation would be very different and possibly unrecognizable from the perspective of OTL.
 
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