AHC: Jewish suicide bombers and terrorists

Titus_Pullo

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With a pod of 1917 how would you get Jews instead of Muslims being sinonymous with suicide bombings, airline hijackings and other terrorist acts?
 

Abhakhazia

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Well, say the US doesn't get involved in WWI, and Germany wins. No Jewish holocaust or British support in Palestine. Zionism is an extreme ideology here, and not getting what they want, Zionists could likely bomb Turkish centers of power.
 
No Israel is a good ingredient, there were plenty of Jewish (and there still is) terrorists during the mandate of Palestine. And then add desperation, and need for a state, and that should be at least part of what you need to happen for such a scenario.
 
Suicide bombing is quite difficult, in my opinion. While it would be a lie to say that Judaism doesn't have a tradition of martyrdom (Masada, anyone?) it's been suppressed for hundreds of years. Even the the Zionist terrorists (and I do consider Etzel to be a terrorist organization) always emphasized planning over sacrifice.

Suicide bombing as a widespread tactic pops up in the Lebanese War by Hezbollah, and was mostly adopted by other Muslims (initially other Shiites), though the Tamil Tigers were also pretty notorious for it. I'm quite hard-pressed to consider a way to create the circumstances that cause any Jewish group to turn to suicide bombing.

Hijacking and other terrorist acts just require a lack of Israel combined with something to knock out the vast majority of non-terrorist Zionists (which served a very important roll in suppressing the terrorists). Something like an Arab victory in 1948 should do the trick.
 
IMHO the only way you see Jewish suicide bombers is in a situation where its "you can always take one with you". Either some sort of severe anti-semitism like the Nazis in Europe, where you either resist by all means and take some with you or die sheep like. Likewise some sort of situation where Israel is subsumed by the Arabs...losing after it was established, and the Jews in "Palestine" being ghettoized and slowly eliminated etc.

Suicide, even as a martyr, is way away from modern Jewish theology (unlike some strands of Islam especially shi'a) and given the small size of the entire worldwide Jewish population, this tactic won't cause something like a surviving Ottoman Empire to cave in & create Israel. Furthermore, you'll have to change places like the USA & Canada, among others, where overall anti-semitism is at a fairly low level and lots of opportunities exist for Jews.
 
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