With a POD any time after the Williamite War, have Jacobitism not loose its place to Republicanism in the minds of Irish separatists.
AHC: Jacobitism remains the ideology of Irish liberation
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You would need to keep the Stuarts prominent in European politics which becomes harder to do the longer they stay in exile and make the Stuarts interested in only ruling Ireland, Bonnie Prince Charles was angered when the French proposed it during the Seven Years War as he considered himself to be the rightful ruler of England and Scotland.
Irish support for the Stuarts was mainly motivated by hopes of a revival of the Gaelic order than loyalty to the Stuart dynasty itself, they'd have supported anyone who gave them hope for liberation, indeed during the Napoleonic Wars there were many poems and ballads composed expressing hope that Napoleon would invade Ireland, the song Wearing of the Green started out as one of these before later having it's lyrics changed to be about emigration.
Dynastic loyalty to the Stuarts would be hard to forge because their legacy in Ireland was mostly bad. James I started the Plantation of Ulster, Charles I divided the Confederates, Charles II refused to give the land Cromwell confiscated from the Irish back and damaged Irish trade with the expansion of the Navigation Acts and James II deserted his supporters after the Battle of the Boyne (for which he became known as James the Shit) and his instructions to James the Pretender show that he viewed the Irish with the same disdain as most of his compatriots.
Even if Irish nationalism becomes monarchical (though it became exclusively Republican later than people think, as late as WW1 the idea of an Irish monarchy had support with Pearse and Plunkett proposing crowning Wilhelm II's son Joachim during the Easter Rising) the O'Conors, O'Neills and O'Donnells have better claims to be King of Ireland, with the O'Neills and O'Donnells having influential European noble branches (the O'Donnells in Spain and Austria, and the O'Neills in Spain and Portugal) and a romantic legacy of fighting for Irish freedom and being exiled similar to the Stuarts. Eamon de Valera is even said to have raised the idea of an Irish monarchy to the Duke of Tetuan, Juan O'Donnell, shortly after being elected prime minister of Ireland.
Irish support for the Stuarts was mainly motivated by hopes of a revival of the Gaelic order than loyalty to the Stuart dynasty itself, they'd have supported anyone who gave them hope for liberation, indeed during the Napoleonic Wars there were many poems and ballads composed expressing hope that Napoleon would invade Ireland, the song Wearing of the Green started out as one of these before later having it's lyrics changed to be about emigration.
Dynastic loyalty to the Stuarts would be hard to forge because their legacy in Ireland was mostly bad. James I started the Plantation of Ulster, Charles I divided the Confederates, Charles II refused to give the land Cromwell confiscated from the Irish back and damaged Irish trade with the expansion of the Navigation Acts and James II deserted his supporters after the Battle of the Boyne (for which he became known as James the Shit) and his instructions to James the Pretender show that he viewed the Irish with the same disdain as most of his compatriots.
Even if Irish nationalism becomes monarchical (though it became exclusively Republican later than people think, as late as WW1 the idea of an Irish monarchy had support with Pearse and Plunkett proposing crowning Wilhelm II's son Joachim during the Easter Rising) the O'Conors, O'Neills and O'Donnells have better claims to be King of Ireland, with the O'Neills and O'Donnells having influential European noble branches (the O'Donnells in Spain and Austria, and the O'Neills in Spain and Portugal) and a romantic legacy of fighting for Irish freedom and being exiled similar to the Stuarts. Eamon de Valera is even said to have raised the idea of an Irish monarchy to the Duke of Tetuan, Juan O'Donnell, shortly after being elected prime minister of Ireland.
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