AHC: Industrialize China to Japan levels by 1936

No I dont agree with that, that there will be a lack of supplies.

I value the comparison I cited over your unevidenced opinion.

Since 95% are peasants these 95% only need to feed themselves and the other 5%, and the other 5% some of which can get it from imports a much smaller % but still.

Why do they choose to sell in the absence of desired consumption goods? Why do they stop home production and replace it with market consumption? They don’t. They reduce labour and engage in substitution handicraft.

And I believe "food output" will increase since people are now working for them selves and their families and not anyone else.

“Your money is no good here.” You’ve provided no basis for market entry.

So no I do not think it will be as in the USSR, also since I am not talking about a communist society.

Neither were the NEP, nor for that matter collectivisation. The first had private land ownership and a free market in grains (dysfunctional but free). The second involved mass enclosure and proletarianisation.

The problem with communist land reform wasnt breaking the landed gentry, that was a net gain. The problem was with collectivization and making thr state the new mega landlord.

No, the problem was generally with first generation proletarianisation of a resistant community. The same brutality happened in England (Hammond & Hammond, Village Labourer).

Land distribution reproduced all the problems of a strong self-possessed peasantry I reliant on the market for subsistence and so unable to be disciplined as labour.

Land distribution worked in Yugoslavia and Vietnam where the village had already been proletarianised by war and salt taxes respectively. Land distribution worked in Hungary where late peasant villages were deeply market integrated.

So obviously, salt taxes.

“Fun” and “interesting” social dislocations result.
 
That [“If any of the land owners refuse then kill them or use them for hard labor.”] is LITERALLY what happened in Ukraine during the Holodomor

You meant collectivisation of course. That’s when peasants were given 20 for knowing their own job.

The Ukraine famine of 1932-1933 (and the broader Soviet famine of the same time) was a FEE type famine where state executions and imprisonments were of former land owning peasants for “theft” including gleaning from their own collective property. The state had already broken the absentee landlords in the civil war. The famine couldn’t have occurred unless the large middling and small peasants had lost their lands, because the NEPman economy provided a logistics system for famine relief and because the peasants wouldn’t have marketed their harvests like the kholkoz did. Moreover, the central attempts at famine relief would have been much more effective with the resilient NEP market logistics.

The suggestion that the failure to adequately relieve the Ukraine famine was intentional genocide in order to eliminate the Ukraine nation is currently argued. I’ve never seen it argued that the holodomor was an attempt to destroy the peasantry as a class: it is normally argued that the famine was the result of the destruction of the peasantry as a class by the successful theft of their land.

And as I’ve said a couple of times, the weak rural markets in early 20th century China point in the direction of a similar class conflict and state monstrosity if the Chinese peasantry get their hands on their land.
 
That is another one, one would be earlier and more sucessful Kong reform before Cixi derailed those, no boxer rebellion will help a lot too

We can not be sure about Cixi's role and positions. What she wrote in her diaries and how people portrayed her were very different, and (apart from the torture of cutting people in small pieces, that had already happened many times in the past with different emperors, and Boxers Revolts that even she acknoledged as her biggest mistake) there was mostly propaganda pro or against Cixi. Plus she was in the middle of a plot including Kang Youwei and Japanese dignitaries to force China into submission in a Japanese Sphere, that included derailing her from power and manipulating the young Emperor.

Let's be cautious while talking about Cixi.
 
Besides freeing up land so it could be more productive, can anyone provide an insight to how the farmers will get their produce to the intended markets without a massive infrastructure overhaul. I believe they will need a train/highway type network (think Canada and USA with COOP organizations alongside track) to move the produce to the cities as well as to the ports where China could then provide exports.
 
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