AHC: Indonesia Majority Buddhist in Presence of Islam

Arab traders were already present in those parts 700/800 ad. But Islam spread around 500 years later in otl. It coincided with the fall of Majapahit when everything fell like dominos after Demak sultanate put the nail in the coffin for hindu/Buddhist states.

Majapahit or another Hindu/Buddhist power controlling those parts can be that hindrance to Islam spreading. Islam in otl spreads politically.
 
Arab traders were already present in those parts 700/800 ad. But Islam spread around 500 years later in otl. It coincided with the fall of Majapahit when everything fell like dominos after Demak sultanate put the nail in the coffin for hindu/Buddhist states.

Majapahit or another Hindu/Buddhist power controlling those parts can be that hindrance to Islam spreading. Islam in otl spreads politically.

India remained Hindu majority despite strong Muslim pressure so it hardly is impossible for Indonesia remaining Buddhist majority area.
 
India remained Hindu majority despite strong Muslim pressure so it hardly is impossible for Indonesia remaining Buddhist majority area.

This true, except India has been Hindu thousands of years before Islam ever made a foothold over there. While Islam was only the government of India for hundred years or so which made parts of subcontinent of India Muslim dominated.

That's a lot of cultural years of hindu dominance and entrenchment to peel off.

While south east Asia had only hundreds of years difference between Hindu and Islam much like Christianity in Middle East wherein Christianity only had hundreds of years advantage over Islam.
 
You're going to need Sumatra to be a much more intensive rice agriculture society as it was the only barrier for the region from religious influence from across Indian Ocean. And unlike Java, their soil is quite worse to enable this. Or alternatively, prevent Indian Ocean trade from being dominated by a single broad cultural group, or have it to be other then the muslims. You need to prevent Levant, Red Sea, the Gulf and Mesopotamia from falling under a single power. Once the muslims achieved that IOTL, there's no stopping unrestricted traffic between Mediterranean world and the orient. Of course, they also held the entire Persia, granting unlimited strategic depth. Had the Caliphate not absorbed the entire Persian Empire in one go their position in the fertile crescents will be a lot more vulnerable.
 

Yuelang

Banned
actually the POD could be put in alternate result of Raden Patah's campaign if you wish...

Have Brawijaya win a decisive victory over Raden Patah's Islamic forces, maybe have the Aceh and Turks did not support Demak rebellion as much as they have done IOTL (they're originally kinda puppet kingdom of Aceh, controlled by the sunans, but Demak quickly gain their independence from the time of Pangeran Sabrang Lor - who fight both Portuguese and Aceh invaders, that's the mess over today's Nationalistic views on ancient kings... ).

Without patronage of Demak, Islam will never catch up in Java

But well, it would be more like Bali Hindus rather than Buddhists...
 
Couldn't you just have a more successful Pagaruyung Kingdom that dominates Sumatra and ends up conquering the remnants of the Majapahit Thalassocracy?
 
Have Brawijaya win a decisive victory over Raden Patah's Islamic forces, maybe have the Aceh and Turks did not support Demak rebellion as much as they have done IOTL

What ?


Couldn't you just have a more successful Pagaruyung Kingdom that dominates Sumatra and ends up conquering the remnants of the Majapahit Thalassocracy?

Wanking Pagaruyung would be interesting. I'm not sure it can quite unite the entire Sumatra though. Let alone threatening Java. Also it's a post-Srivijaya kingdom, so they'll still have to deal with the reality of Indian Ocean economy, considering their location.
 

Yuelang

Banned
Sunan Ampel initially works under "diplomatic immunity" because he's a Pasai courtier. And the Ottomans gave Raden Patah cannons as well as military advisors...

Raden Patah start as Aceh puppet, that was written in Chinese Chronicles...
 
Sunan Ampel initially works under "diplomatic immunity" because he's a Pasai courtier. And the Ottomans gave Raden Patah cannons as well as military advisors...

Raden Patah start as Aceh puppet, that was written in Chinese Chronicles...

Eh no. Sunan Ampel was indeed from Pasai, but he didn't bring Acehnese troops or anything. Aceh was only born in 1496 and its relations with Ottoman Empire only began in 1565. Demak didn't establish any sort of relationship with Ottomans that Aceh will get later.
 
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