CaliGuy
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Here is an Alternate History Challenge for you: Have the Schlieffen Plan *succeed* in World War I *and* have Germany lose World War I afterwards.
Basically, what I am thinking of is actually a bit similar to what occurred in World War II in our TL: To elaborate on this, Germany quickly defeated France (albeit (*unlike* in World War I) with Russia/the Soviet Union being neutral at that point in time) and then sent most of its military forces to the East and invaded Russia (the Soviet Union). After some initial military successes, Germany's Russian campaign ultimately failed to achieve its objective and Russia (the Soviet Union) began pushing Germany back. Eventually, Britain and the U.S. (which has by now entered World War II on the Anglo-Russian side) successfully invaded North Africa, then Sicily, then Southern Italy, and then France in both Normandy and in the south (in 1944), thus recreating the Western Front that essentially disappeared in 1940. Afterwards, Russia (the Soviet Union), Britain, and the U.S. were able to finish off Germany and to conquer Berlin (and most of Germany along the way, obviously).
Indeed, how exactly do you *realistically* achieve such an (ultimate) outcome in World War I *with* a successful Schlieffen Plan?
Anyway, any thoughts on this?
Also, for the record, the PoD (from our TL) for this TL is 1872 or later.
Basically, what I am thinking of is actually a bit similar to what occurred in World War II in our TL: To elaborate on this, Germany quickly defeated France (albeit (*unlike* in World War I) with Russia/the Soviet Union being neutral at that point in time) and then sent most of its military forces to the East and invaded Russia (the Soviet Union). After some initial military successes, Germany's Russian campaign ultimately failed to achieve its objective and Russia (the Soviet Union) began pushing Germany back. Eventually, Britain and the U.S. (which has by now entered World War II on the Anglo-Russian side) successfully invaded North Africa, then Sicily, then Southern Italy, and then France in both Normandy and in the south (in 1944), thus recreating the Western Front that essentially disappeared in 1940. Afterwards, Russia (the Soviet Union), Britain, and the U.S. were able to finish off Germany and to conquer Berlin (and most of Germany along the way, obviously).
Indeed, how exactly do you *realistically* achieve such an (ultimate) outcome in World War I *with* a successful Schlieffen Plan?
Anyway, any thoughts on this?
Also, for the record, the PoD (from our TL) for this TL is 1872 or later.