AHC:Have the American Nazi Party control the House of representatives

Why are people saying Morganthau, granted he was a raging anti semite, he was REALLY anti German.the Nazis are going to be even more discredited under him. The term Nazi values to much political baggage to ever be a successful party in the US
 
Morgantheau was many things, but anti-Semite was not one. The reason he gets brought up is that robust implementation of his plan is basically genocidal revenge to Germany, and would confirm Nazi propaganda's us (Aryan) vs them (Jew) worldview.
 
Maybe Operation Unthinkable happens and then goes really badly, leading to an overwhelming Soviet victory with humiliating terms for the US--perhaps it loses Hawaii, Alaska, or the Philippines to Russia, creating an anti-Communist/revanchist situation similar to the one that created the original Nazis? For maximum effect, you can also add some of the other posters' points such as a Communist Israel and/or a bloody and contentious Civil Rights Movement. I'm not sure how plausible this scenario is (personally, I doubt the Soviets would be very interested in taking Alaska or the Pacific islands when they could extend their grasp in Europe to the Rhine or perhaps even the Pyrenees), but it's worth at least a glance for a fascist USA.
 

Wallet

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FDR dies in 1932 in Miami. It takes much longer for the US to recover from the Depression. Charles Lindbergh is elected in 1940 and the US stays isolated. The war starts like OTL, but British can't get out of Dunkirk and the entire British army is captured. The British sue for peace. Hitler is extremely generous, giving back all POWs and even gives some French colonies to the British and restarts trade hoping the British will join the upcoming war on communism. Seeing a pro German US president, the British cooperate but don't start join the war.

Eventually the Soviets and Nazis duke it out but the Soviets overrun Europe. The Soviets take Berlin then Paris in 1947/1948. Several members of the Nazi leadership and science community flees to the US. The Soviets for whatever reason don't revel about the Holocaust or it's seen as commie propaganda

Some Germans become nationalized citizens and become prominent business or political leaders, especially in the GOP. Civil rights is even more bloody. The Nation of Islam starts race riots across the nation. Maybe have Walt Disney be president from 1953-1961.

The now radicalized GOP, now with the Dixiecrats, changes their name when Rockwell becomes chairman to the American party with an open anti black and anti Jew platform. They change their name to the American Party.

A Democrat wins in 1960. After losing a brief nuclear war that has New York and Chicago nuked and handing over Hawaii and Alaska to Russia, the American Party takes control of the House of Representatives in 1962. By this point they could be openly Nazi
 

MERRICA

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Why are people saying Morganthau, granted he was a raging anti semite, he was REALLY anti German.the Nazis are going to be even more discredited under him. The term Nazi values to much political baggage to ever be a successful party in the US

He's Jewish.
 

SaucePlease

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FDR dies in 1932 in Miami. It takes much longer for the US to recover from the Depression. Charles Lindbergh is elected in 1940 and the US stays isolated. The war starts like OTL, but British can't get out of Dunkirk and the entire British army is captured. The British sue for peace. Hitler is extremely generous, giving back all POWs and even gives some French colonies to the British and restarts trade hoping the British will join the upcoming war on communism. Seeing a pro German US president, the British cooperate but don't start join the war.

Eventually the Soviets and Nazis duke it out but the Soviets overrun Europe. The Soviets take Berlin then Paris in 1947/1948. Several members of the Nazi leadership and science community flees to the US. The Soviets for whatever reason don't revel about the Holocaust or it's seen as commie propaganda

Some Germans become nationalized citizens and become prominent business or political leaders, especially in the GOP. Civil rights is even more bloody. The Nation of Islam starts race riots across the nation. Maybe have Walt Disney be president from 1953-1961.

The now radicalized GOP, now with the Dixiecrats, changes their name when Rockwell becomes chairman to the American party with an open anti black and anti Jew platform. They change their name to the American Party.

A Democrat wins in 1960. After losing a brief nuclear war that has New York and Chicago nuked and handing over Hawaii and Alaska to Russia, the American Party takes control of the House of Representatives in 1962. By this point they could be openly Nazi

Great Timeline response, even though it breaks my POD limit and the idea of Walt Disney and Charles Lindbergh becoming president is ASB.
 
He's Jewish.
Doh! I'm mixing him up in my head with someone else. Point still stands though, he seems a bad way to start Nazi America unless people are suggesting he makes so lousy a president of makes everyone go "Hey maybe they Hitler guy was onto something."
 
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Really? I didn't know that, reading up on the guy it makes me wonder even more, how is he the start point for Nazi America!? Unless people are suggesting he makes so lousy a president of makes everyone go "Hey maybe they Hitler guy was onto something."

Morgantheau's plan would have been genocidal (in the Holodomor or Bengal Famine senses) on the German populace, by design de-industrializing it into a "pastoral state." It's kind of a Kill Bill-level of revenge fantasy that to this day continues to be used by Holocaust deniers to peddle their "worldwide Jewish conspiracy against the Aryan races claptrap."
 
Morgantheau's plan would have been genocidal (in the Holodomor or Bengal Famine senses) on the German populace, by design de-industrializing it into a "pastoral state." It's kind of a Kill Bill-level of revenge fantasy that to this day continues to be used by Holocaust deniers to peddle their "worldwide Jewish conspiracy against the Aryan races claptrap."

I'd heard of the plan to perma-fuck Germany, but I'd mixed him up with Ford for some reason in my head.
 
No single point of divergence could do this. It would require some changes.
-Morganthau Plan occurring.
-Fascism taking roots in American allies against communism
-Israel falling to Communism
-A bloody civil rights movement
-The two party system collasping
-A severe economic crisis occuring

Losing the Peace has all of the above.
 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Nazi_Party

With a POD no earlier than 1945:Have the ANP control the majority of seats in the house of representatives sometime before 2024.

This requires ASBs. By 1 January 1945, Nazism was the most despised political movement in the world, under all-out attack by the US, and by its allies who included just about every civilized country, and a few months away from extermination.

What could be required would be something like: supergenius Nazi biologist develops bacteriological superweapon after 1/1/45, which wipes out 90% of the world's population outside Germany (and such satellite countries as Germany provides vaccines to). Germany subsquently conquers the world, forming the survivors into fascist puppet states. The dummy political party in the U.S. is the ANP.
 

SaucePlease

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This requires ASBs. By 1 January 1945, Nazism was the most despised political movement in the world, under all-out attack by the US, and by its allies who included just about every civilized country, and a few months away from extermination.

What could be required would be something like: supergenius Nazi biologist develops bacteriological superweapon after 1/1/45, which wipes out 90% of the world's population outside Germany (and such satellite countries as Germany provides vaccines to). Germany subsquently conquers the world, forming the survivors into fascist puppet states. The dummy political party in the U.S. is the ANP.

I chose 1945 so that "have Germany win" wouldn't be a valid way of solving my challenge. Although I like the way you think.
 
I actually think Naziism could also do just fine as a rehabbed ideology after the events of Twilight of the Red Tsar. Either cause communism to be more hated and feared than anti-semitism or get sufficient genocidal behavior in other groups that the Nazis are seen as semi-normal.
 
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