With any plausible POD, have a noble house from antiquity survive. Bonus points if they remain in power, and if they came in power before Christ.
AHC : Have an Ancient House Survive Into Present Day
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I will forego the bonus point and say 'The Guptas' of India. After their fall from absolute power(The last empire of antiquity India), they survived much more longer as petty kings in present day Bihar, with some carefully alliances with the Pala and Pratihara kings, they could well remain in power, and become so synonymous with Bihar that it might be called 'Guptara' or 'Guptastan' or something and they might continue to rule on as petty kings.
The Bourbon descend from Hugh Capet in the male line, allegedly.
If you accept descent from the semi-legendary Niall Noigiallach (d. c. 400 CE), the O'Neills have a strong claim to being the oldest continuously extant European noble line IMO. I could see a Tyrone-Wank resulting in them ruling Ireland as constitutional monarchs to the present day departing from Aidan O'Neill and the Nine Year's War or similar era...maybe a Spanish landing in England in 1588 as POD?
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Any we can go back three generations more with some certainty, to Robert the Strong in the mid-800s.
The House of Hesse can, with a little bit more interpolation, trace its male-line ancestry to Robert's contemporary Gilbert, Count of the Maasgau.
Japan. While Emperor Jimmu and the first 28 Emperors are hard to verify, the 29th Emperor of Japan, who ruled from 539 to 571, is verified as the male-line ancestor of the current Emperor of Japan. Japan easily fits the criteria, and the bonus point, as Emperor Akihito is still on the throne today, and he will be succeeded by his son next year.
Given their tendency towards inbreeding I kinda doubt that they would be biologically capable to survive whatever their social conditions
The Solomonids of Ethiopia are still around, and even if you discount the traditional story of their origins (which would definitely net the bonus points if true), they'd still reach back to at least the 13th century. Avoiding the 1974 coup and keeping them in power should be doable with a somewhat recent PoD, but I'd welcome the input of anyone with some knowledge on the topic.
IIRC some Italian noble families claim descending from emperor Augustus so if they could somehow prove that altough it might be quiet difficult due very long time period.
But I think that furthest we can go with Europeans is that we get to Charles Martel and even then there might be some corrupt data so not necessarility very true descending.
But Hashemites descends from Prophet Mohammad and so it would go there perfectly and even Bonus point is fullfilled when king of Jordan is Hashemite.
But I think that furthest we can go with Europeans is that we get to Charles Martel and even then there might be some corrupt data so not necessarility very true descending.
But Hashemites descends from Prophet Mohammad and so it would go there perfectly and even Bonus point is fullfilled when king of Jordan is Hashemite.
Depending should it be accurate descending or is mythical descending OK.
interesting. d'you know if any claim(ed) descent from Caligula? (i've got an idea that one of the characters in my ASB ATL is distantly descended from him as part of a convoluted pop culture reference
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I'm not sure if the 6th century falls into the usual definition of antiquity.