AHC: Have a country become Neo-Nazi

ThePest179 · Feb 19, 2015

Your goal, if you can stomach it, is to have at least one country after May 9, 1945, follow Nazism/Neo-Nazism*. Bonus points if they're hated by everyone and are a pariah. Good luck....

*This means it has to fit these criteria:

Anti-communist (enough to declare Op. Barbarossa a "great crusade")

Anti-Semetic (enough to want to repeat the Final Solution)

Totalitarian

frustrated progressive · Feb 19, 2015

Have Golden Dawn win by a landslide in Greece and withdraw from the EU.

ThePest179 · Feb 19, 2015

frustrated progressive said:
Have Golden Dawn win by a landslide in Greece and withdraw from the EU.

How would that happen?

You know GD is not that popular in Greece, right?

Cheapskate · Feb 19, 2015

It is tricky because even if you set up the internal political situation (not easy itself, due to the intensely negative legacy of Nazism), outside powers will surely intervene due to, again, the intense negative legacy of Nazism.

Nuclear war between the USA and the USSR which allows some crackpot dictator room to pull it off?

Tom Colton · Feb 19, 2015

The SSNP seize control of Syria in the 50s and make a strategic alliance with Nasser, so when the UAR collapses it's left as a pariah in the region?

Ashtagon · Feb 19, 2015

ThePest179 said:
How would that happen?

You know GD is not that popular in Greece, right?

They came in 3rd with 18 of 300 of the seats, about the same as the previous election's result for them.

Honestly, Syriza's growth was the off-the-wall scenario, not GD's failure to grow.

Lalli · Feb 19, 2015

Hungarian extremist right-wing gains more power.

Binky the Clown · Feb 19, 2015

Have the Golpe Borghese or the 23-F succeed. While Italy and Spain wouldn't necessarily be Neo-Nazi (rather Neo-Fascist and Neo-Falangist), they would fit all of your criteria.

Simreeve · Feb 19, 2015

That might be easier to do in somewhere that's [relatively speaking more isolated and "less important" than any European country (other than, perhaps one of the micro-states) is likely to be considered as: For example, how about a suspiciously 'Teutonic'-looking dictatorship in Paraguay?

overoceans · Feb 19, 2015

I already posted this on the religious-cult-leader-takes-power thread, but it seems more applicable here...

Operation Red Dog

Though I don't imagine the government they envisioned would be overtly neo-nazi.

MalcontentRex · Feb 19, 2015

If you define "go neo-Nazi" loosely enough quite a few nations fit the bill.

Michel Van · Feb 19, 2015

ThePest179 said:
Your goal, if you can stomach it, is to have at least one country after May 9, 1945, follow Nazism/Neo-Nazism*. Bonus points if they're hated by everyone and are a pariah. Good luck....

*This means it has to fit these criteria:

Anti-communist (enough to declare Op. Barbarossa a "great crusade")

Anti-Semetic (enough to want to repeat the Final Solution)

Totalitarian

Sound like today Hungary...

MalcontentRex · Feb 19, 2015

Simreeve said:
That might be easier to do in somewhere that's [relatively speaking more isolated and "less important" than any European country (other than, perhaps one of the micro-states) is likely to be considered as: For example, how about a suspiciously 'Teutonic'-looking dictatorship in Paraguay?

Wasn't this basically what the Stroessner regime was in our timeline?

Tanc49 · Feb 19, 2015

What about an African country? Some guy could be crazy enough to fit all the criterias and could be supported by the USA because

No one actually acres about Africa
Lot of communist countries around

ThePest179 · Feb 19, 2015

Binky the Clown said:
Have the Golpe Borghese or the 23-F succeed. While Italy and Spain wouldn't necessarily be Neo-Nazi (rather Neo-Fascist and Neo-Falangist), they would fit all of your criteria.

overoceans said:
I already posted this on the religious-cult-leader-takes-power thread, but it seems more applicable here...

Operation Red Dog

Though I don't imagine the government they envisioned would be overtly neo-nazi.

I'm not too sure any of those would be even remotely successful.

Tanc49 said:
What about an African country? Some guy could be crazy enough to fit all the criterias and could be supported by the USA because

No one actually acres about Africa

Lot of communist countries around

Okay, that's fine.

Do you have a country in mind?

packmanwiscy · Feb 19, 2015

This criteria sounds like a fairly broad description of Afghanistan

Pio2013 · Feb 19, 2015

The Peron's Argentina was actually philonazi. With some twists it can become full nazi.

oreocruncher · Feb 19, 2015

Michel Van said:
Sound like today Hungary...

If Jobbik comes into power, yes...

David T · Feb 19, 2015

ThePest179 said:
How would that happen?

You know GD is not that popular in Greece, right?

6.9 percent of the vote does not seem like that much, but the NSDAP only got 2.6 percent of the vote in the 1928 Reichstag elections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_1928

If the failure of PASOK and New Democracy is followed by a failure of SYRIZA to improve economic conditions, who knows what will happen?

oreocruncher · Feb 19, 2015

David T said:
6.9 percent of the vote does not seem like that much, but the NSDAP only got 2.6 percent of the vote in the 1928 Reichstag elections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_1928

If the failure of PASOK and New Democracy is followed by a failure of SYRIZA to improve economic conditions, who knows what will happen?

Yea, but that was just before the Great Depression...Greece is already in the midst of a Depression-like situation and Golden Dawn got less than the Nazis in the Great Depression...