AHC : ground warfare on the US mainland

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Fascist League of Nations attacks US #2

And while we are at it... immediate post Pearl Harbour an Anglo Japanese naval force gets to the west coast, landing a Japanese force that marches on LA and an Australian force that heads for San Francisco

Is this enough or do I have to bring in the beat of giant extra-terrestrial leathery wings?
(I hope so - I saw Pacific Rim last week and it's AWESOME)
 

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Can anyone think of a way for the US and Britain (+ dominions including Canada of course) to fall out in a big enough way for their to be a war between the two countries that results in invasion via Canada in the early to mid 1930s?

WW1 debt issues such as USA insist on repayment. UK goes fascist. UK goes communist. UK makes peace with Hitler and USA executes written war plans to take all threatening lands in North America and UK does not cooperate. Raw miscalculation and overreaction like what led to WW1 IOTL. WW1 goes differently (USA does not enter, lesser USW, UK does some outrage). UK/Japanese alliance stays in effect and Japan drags UK into war.
 
With a POD ranging from 1900 to 2020, have foreign troops (a civil war doesn't count) land on American soil...

ITYM U.S. soil...

Actual "foreign" (Old World) troops on American soil since 1900, excluding troops in colonies (such as the Falklands):

1) German weather reporting detachment in Greenland during WW II.

2) Chinese army instructors in Haiti as part of the UN peacekeeping/civil affairs mission.

Of course there have been thousands of Old World troops in the U.S. and Canada for exercises. Or as PoWs.

So the requirement should be hostile troops in arms, in the Lower 48 or in Alaska or Hawaii after statehood.

OK.

Zangara hits his target (FDR). Garner becomes President in 1933, but fails to check the ongoing economic crash. Food riots break out in some cities in the next year. He orders the Army and National Guard to suppress the disorder, but some units mutiny. Garner's health breaks down. Communist and Socialist rebellions; authoritarian, parafascist reaction. Garner is bullied into naming one Charles Foster Kane, a dictator-wannabe, as Secretary of State, and then resigning, making Kane President. Kane suppresses the Reds by mustering volunteer paramilitary forces. So the U.S. becomes practically a fascist state (the Union), with an active Red underground. The Union's pillars include white supremacy and a generous dose of popuiist anti-semitism.

Meanwhile. the Prince of Wales has his head turned by Lady Rachel Montefiore, who cuts him out of Wallis' clutches shortly after Edward presented Wallis to his family. She's 25, beautifui, very charming, the maternal granddaughter of Baron Stanley of Alderley, and she's not Wallis. Edward marries her to everyone's great relief, and hardly anyone cares that she's the great-grandaughter of Baronet Sir Moses Montefiore, the first practicing Jew to receive a British title (her brother is the 4th Baronet). She converts on the marriage, but then her mother converted at marriage the other way. The marriage provokes a flood of insults from the Nazi press, deeply alienating lots of Britons, and some in the U.S. too.

The Union has hegemonic ambitions (taking over all the Caribbean colonies, and annexing Canada).

The U.S. and Germany intervene in China against Japan, as Chiang embraces the Nazi model.

Eventually... global war breaks out in the 1940s.

Germany, Italy, the U.S., and China on one side (the Ring).

(The U.S. is much weaker, due to the internal division between the Union and its opponents. Think massive industrial sabotage, draft resistance, etc. China is actually stronger, with German and American arms and Chiang creating a strong state.)

Britain, France, the USSR, and Japan on the other (the Line).

Throw in minor powers to suit yourself.

At the end of the war, the U.S. is the last Ring power standing, having conquered Canada, the Caribbean, and Central America. British and Japanese forces land in North America to finish off the Union.
 
Here's my try, inspired by James G's Red Dawn stories and much more.

1938
: Maurice Bavaud shot Hitler but the latter emerged relatively unscathed.

1949: Nazi scientist Eugen Sanger is kidnapped to Russia. However he dies a year later.

1953: Yugoslav leader Josip Tito is assassinated.

1957: Russians launched Sputnik satellite on October 4th.

1958: NASA's Pioneer 3 is the first spacecraft to orbit the sun.

1961: On March Alan Shepard becames the first man in space. Yuri Gagarin followed him a month later and the Berlin wall was built. Later on Gherman Titov became the first in orbit.

1963: US President Kennedy is assassinated.

1969: Neil Armstrong landed on the Moon, ARPANET is born and Brezhnev is shot by an assassin.

1971: Kosmos 419 is launched to Mars and became the first to orbit it.

1976: Oman fell into the tide of communism. Chile's Project Cybersyn emerges with success.

1979: Iran and Nicaraguan communist revolutions. Russia sent space probes to retrieve soils from Mars.

1980: Russia develops OGAS network, based on ARPANET/Internet and Cybersyn.

1981: Ted Kennedy is elected POTUS however John Hinckley Jr assasinated him, causing VP John Glenn to become President instead.

1984: Ronald Reagan won the US election. KAL 007 tragedy.

1986: Chernobyl disaster.

Circa 1991: Europe launches AGORA spacecraft to Vesta while Russia sent its own to dwarf planet Ceres. SU slightly reforms itself.

1995: Alexender Lukashenko became the new leader of the Soviet Union.

1997: Colombia is taken over by FARC. US and Russia send their own probes to Jupiter and Saturn.

2001: 9/11 attacks causing USA to invade Sudan.

2003: Astronomical radio source SHGb02+14a is detected and confirmed to be extraterrestrial in origin.

2008: Global financial crisis.

2011: Major revolutions across the Middle East and elsewhere. While some ended up with democracy, others resulted in a revolutionary communist regimes such as Guatemala and El Salvador.

2014: Large scale uprising in Communist Poland and brutal suppression. On July 17th a Soviet anti-aircraft brigade mistakenly shot down Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 over Polish area.

2015: Soviet dissident Navalny is forced to flee to the United States.

2016: Hillary Clinton won the Presidential election despite major election interference attempts in favor of Donald Trump. Some Soviet websites are hit with cyber attacks earlier that year.

2017: El Salvador fell into communism. North Korea test launches its first ICBM.

2018: An American small satellite became the target of an cyberattack when the hacker gained access to it's unauthenticated interface and control the satellite. He claims that he is doing it to "show the world that it's possible".

2020: Donald Trump won the Presidential election and West Germany's Unterweser plant is blown up by RAF terrorists. At this time both US and Russia have moonbases.

2021: The Greens won the West German election.

2022: Unsuccessful invasion attempt against Belize mounted by Guatemala.

2023: Honduras became communist. One of the largest global financial crash occurs this time.

Early 2024: Mexico erupted into unrest with an army colonel mounting coup d'etat and overthrow the government. However he was forced to flee to the United States afterwards while Cuban-backed communists expand their power and by this time Russia is considering to invade America.

Summer of 2024: Los Angeles Olympics takes place while Mexican communists reached part of the US border. Later on Russia began massive deception operation to hide their invasion preparations. Donald Trump is in big trouble because of multiple scandals and KGB begin to assassinate or kidnap various both notable and regular individuals for their perusal. Furthermore many KGB-backed terror attacks occurs in what was known as "Grey Terror".

Non-exhaustive partial listing of famous victims: Boris Johnson, Lady Gaga, Tony Blair, Princess Charlotte of Cambridge, Sasha and Malia Obama, Eric Taylor/Cosmo The God, Michio Kaku, Mark Kelly, Tye Sheridan, some of Elon Musk's children, Steve Wozniak, Rafael Nadal, Malcolm Turnbull, et cetera

Fall 2024: Soviet invasion of America commences with strategic nuclear attacks and cyberattacks against critical US locations and knocking out several US satellites. They and their allies poured in from Alaska and Mexico later on and KGB pressures America's allies to keep their hands off with the threats to harm the kidnapped individuals.
 
Some pretty interesting scenarios already laid out. I'm wondering, though, what about Mexico fully joining the Axis in WWII and, with German support, open another front in the American Southwest. Germany would press for this to keep US resources tied up on this side of the Atlantic, diminishing our presence, if even for a few months or a year at most, in Europe.
 
Some pretty interesting scenarios already laid out. I'm wondering, though, what about Mexico fully joining the Axis in WWII and, with German support, open another front in the American Southwest. Germany would press for this to keep US resources tied up on this side of the Atlantic, diminishing our presence, if even for a few months or a year at most, in Europe.
The issue is that Mexico was against the Axis even before the US was. Mexico was one of the big supporters of Republican Spain, being one of the few countries to send arms, they were basically in a proxy war with the Axis there from 1937-39

Plus of course the obvious, what is in it for Mexico to get its ass beaten in by the United States on Germany's behalf? Even if Germany wins in Europe, that doesn't help Mexico

If you want Mexico to fight the US, the US really has to be the one to escalate it to the point of open war, and that works better in the WWI era than the WWII, and the difference in power is less in that period, so having a few Mexican units raid the US would be plausible
 
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