AHC: Greece retakes the cities of the seven Churches

Asia minor's coast had a large greek population so in the aftermath of a victorious greek campaign in 1922/1923 i see a population exchange in the same manner it happened in OTL... Greeks from Anatolia would be relocated to Smyrna and other coastal cities while turkish population would be sent to Anatolia...
 
Ethnic cleansing doesn't have to be genocidal, huge population movements can and do happen in wars. I don't know how many refugees were created by the Greek-Turk wars after WW1, but I'm guessing there are plenty of people who are already uprooted that the respective governments will move on to the other country, others who are uprooted and will move of their own accord and still others who will uproot themselves postwar to settle in the territory of their home country. These could easily number in the millions, certainly the formation of Israel led to almost 2 million people moving around in a similar sized area.
 
I don't really like to defend the Greeks, but I've never understood why so many here think that they would automatically cleanse all the Turks under their control. They certainly didn't do so after the Balkan wars, or there would be no Muslims to participate in the population exchange. And even today there about a third of Western Thrace, which borders Turkey, is Muslim.
If you want to accuse the Greeks of consistent crimes against an ethnic group, consider the Greek behavior against non-Greek orthodox. Not only has Greece has never permitted them any separate identity (unlikely the Muslims) but their treatment has been in general far more brutal.

I think that it's based on the fact that there were massacres OTL; and that following a Greek victory; Greece would be in a superior position, and have more of a free hand to do things their own way.
 
I think that it's based on the fact that there were massacres OTL; and that following a Greek victory; Greece would be in a superior position, and have more of a free hand to do things their own way.
No, it's based on the (false) idea that the Greeks always massacred and expelled Muslims in territories they capture.
Also, even a Greek victory where they actually control territories in Asia Minor still might not give them a free hand, since such an ethnic cleansing could easily provoke a new war.
 
For any time after 1740, the challenge is have Greece regain control of the area containing the seven churches of Asia (Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamon, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia, Laodicea), or as many as possible. Bonus if they also have Constantinople as the Greek capital city.

Right after WWI, Greece wanted part of Anatolia. Had that gone through, they would have gotten Constantinople and about one third of the peninsula. Now, if there is a WWII with Italy and Greece on opposite sides, when Italy invades Greece and takes over Athens, the Greeks might move the capital to Constantinople temporarily.
 
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Right after WWI, Greece wanted part of Anatolia. Had that gone through, they would have gotten Constantinople and about one third of the peninsula. Now, if there is a WWII with Italy and Greece on opposite sides, when Italy invades Greece and takes over Athens, the Greeks might move the capital to Constantinople temporarily.

Thank you, that's closer to what I was looking for. I was assuming it would need to be through some kind of conflict, but I'm not completely well versed on the Balkans from 1740 onward to say which of the many conflicts between Russia, the Ottoman Empire, Austria, Austria-Hungary, et al. would lead to Greece being used as a proxy to advance one side over the other, leading to Greece regaining territory there.
 
"Re"gaining?

Any power that would be supporting Greece gaining it would be doing it to strengthen Greece as an ally/proxy/useful distraction, not in the that Greeks are entitled to every inch of land that once had Greek speakers.
 
Sort of like how the Armenian communities in Istanbul, Izmir, etc were left completely intact?

G]enocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.

"In whole or in part" would not preclude certain areas being safe while other areas are targeted by systematic efforts at any of A-E.
 
Sort of like how the Armenian communities in Istanbul, Izmir, etc were left completely intact?
I don't see how the murder of most of the leaders of the Armenian communities left them completely intact.
Also, I would be careful with using "etc". Armenians were also deported from many cities in western Anatolia and even the European territories. Istanbul and Izmir were an exception due to there being too many foreign witnesses there.
 
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