AHC: greater trolley coach use today in North America

@1940LaSalle Interesting you call them "trolley coaches" instead of "trolleybuses". :) Is that a more local, New Jersey term for them ?

Honestly, even looking at the OTL history and fortunes of trolleybuses in Europe, it's always been a bit of an uphill battle for them. You have them as viable public transport vehicles as early as the late 1890s. Granted, they are not very fast and usually can't take too many people.

This trend continues until at least the 1920s, when I've noticed there's sort of a split in the popularity of trolleybus adoption and usage. Some place get rid of them altogether, other introduce them or keep at least updating the technology, if not the network. You get something of a trolleybus Renaissance in post-WWII Europe, but in some countries - such as the UK in particular - this proves short-lived and trolleybuses start vanishing again since the 1960s. The aforementioned UK only kept their's as working exhibits in transport museums. In contrast, there have been plenty of Western or Southern European countries that have preserved their trolleybus networks in multiple cities. Italy and Spain come to mind, plenty of examples there. Portugal has some trolleybuses. Switzerland too (it even manufactured its own trolleybus models under the Sauer brand and exported them). Some Asian countries like Iran have a trolleybus network, and of smaller anglophone countries, New Zealand seems to have remained a trolleybus stalwart, with a single network in the capital city.

For some reason, during the Cold War, the former East Block generally saw more investment into modernising and improving tram and trolleybus networks, and even expanding existing ones and building a few new ones. One could say the countries in the USSR's orbit sort of perservered with keeping their trolleybuses and trams running, even in the decades with shortages, though this might have been partly down to the dominant position of government influence in these countries. The Škoda company (not the passenger car maker, but the Škoda Works succcessor) has remained one of the bigger tram and trolleybus manufacturers and exporters in the world partly because of a continued tradition of developing new models during the Cold War. Concerning the investment into new networks, in the former USSR alone, there were even some long-distance trolleybus lines established in Crimea and in Moldova. Though it needs to be said these were one of the rarer highly ambitious projects. Most trolleybus networks in the East Block continued to be just extensions or reworkings of existing ones.

Looking at what happened to most trolleybuses and frequently also to trams - not just in North America, but plenty of European cities as well, even in cases where there was a brief post-WWII trolleybus renaissance - I think we need to identify some factors that led to the demise of favouring trolleybuses in the US, with only some US cities holding on to this type of public transport network.
 
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@1940LaSalle Interesting you call them "trolley coaches" instead of "trolleybuses". :) Is that a more local, New Jersey term for them ?

No; that's the term Sebree and Ward used in their two volume work on this type of transit vehicle (were I from Des Moines, I'd likely call them "curbliners", a highly localized term used-to my knowledge-only in Des Moines).

Honestly, even looking at the OTL history and fortunes of trolleybuses in Europe, it's always been a bit of an uphill battle for them. You have them as viable public transport vehicles as early as the late 1890s. Granted, they are not very fast and usually can't take too many people.

This trend continues until at least the 1920s, when I've noticed there's sort of a split in the popularity of trolleybus adoption and usage. Some place get rid of them altogether, other introduce them or keep at least updating the technology, if not the network. You get something of a trolleybus Renaissance in post-WWII Europe, but in some countries - such as the UK in particular - this proves short-lived and trolleybuses start vanishing again since the 1960s. The aforementioned UK only kept their's as working exhibits in transport museums. In contrast, there have been plenty of Western or Southern European countries that have preserved their trolleybus networks in multiple cities. Italy and Spain come to mind, plenty of examples there. Portugal has some trolleybuses. Switzerland too (it even manufactured its own trolleybus models under the Sauer brand and exported them). Some Asian countries like Iran have a trolleybus network, and of smaller anglophone countries, New Zealand seems to have remained a trolleybus stalwart, with a single network in the capital city.

For some reason, during the Cold War, the former East Block generally saw more investment into modernising and improving tram and trolleybus networks, and even expanding existing ones and building a few new ones. One could say the countries in the USSR's orbit sort of perservered with keeping their trolleybuses and trams running, even in the decades with shortages, though this might have been partly down to the dominant position of government influence in these countries. The Škoda company (not the passenger car maker, but the Škoda Works succcessor) has remained one of the bigger tram and trolleybus manufacturers and exporters in the world partly because of a continued tradition of developing new models during the Cold War. Concerning the investment into new networks, in the former USSR alone, there were even some long-distance trolleybus lines established in Crimea and in Moldova. Though it needs to be said these were one of the rarer highly ambitious projects. Most trolleybus networks in the East Block continued to be just extensions or reworkings of existing ones.

Looking at what happened to most trolleybuses and frequently also to trams - not just in North America, but plenty of European cities as well, even in cases where there was a brief post-WWII trolleybus renaissance - I think we need to identify some factors that led to the demise of favouring trolleybuses in the US, with only some US cities holding on to this type of public transport network.

Unfortunately that's true to a large extent. Today, only a small handful of cities in North America (Boston; Philadelphia; Dayton; Seattle; Vancouver; San Francisco) operate TCs, and the number of lines in Philadelphia is down to three (the overhead on the two south Philadelphia lines, routes 29 and 79, was removed recently). Countering that to some extent is the rise of the TC in Frisco, where more than one diesel bus line got twin overhead recently. But then again, Frisco has always gone its own way.

In the US, the TC never got anywhere in a few major cities (Buffalo; Houston; Pittsburgh; Minneapolis/St. Paul), and made only minor incursions in a few more (Detroit; Toledo). Canada had somewhat more prevalence, but Canada has always viewed public transit more favorably. I have to wonder if somehow there weren't an analog to the Presidents' Conference Committee for the TC that this vehicle might have become more standardized and have more persistence: the offerings from ACF Brill, Marmon-Herrington, Pullman, and others varied widely over the years.

Modern TCs can handle traffic readily, with plenty of acceleration from a dead stop. The big headache has always been and will always be the overhead: no big deal in climates like Frisco, Seattle, or Vancouver, but a pain in colder climates like Boston (and the one-time huge Chicago network). It was always necessary to pull coaches in and outfit them with special shoes to cut through ice accumulations for freezing rain or sleet storms, for example. There's also a special set of skills to handle turning a TC and to working with overhead turnouts: Sebree and Ward document those skills very clearly.

I still recall Baltimore's TCs fondly (I grew up there; the last ones ran in 1959), and wish more cities brought them back: a lot easier to string double wire than it is to lay track and string single overhead for light rail. Doubt it'll happen, though.
 
Would you like to hear from a Vancouver bus driver? I have driven most of the bus routes.
OTL Greater Vancouver is served by 'all of the above': electric streetcars, electric trolleys, diesel-electric hybrids, straight diesels, natural gas deisels, 15-passenger shuttle buses, Skytrain, commuter rail and passenger ferry boats.

Back during the late 19th century, Vancouver's rectangular street grid was laid out for streetcars. Streetcars run on rails (imbedded in asphalt streets) but draw electricity from overhead wires. Streetcars disappearred before I was born and most of the old rails are covered by asphalt.
Electric streetcars were replaced by electric trolleys (rubber wheels, but drawing electricity from overhead wires. They still work the busiest routes downtown. As demand increases during rush-hour, we add more buses to existing routes. The busiest streets (e.g. Broadway) are served by both electric trolleys (Route 9) and diesel buses (Route 99). There is a YouTube video about the "Old 9" Route.
I suspect that Vancouver retained electric trolley buss because they were owned by BC Hydro which supplies most of the electricity to the province and owns dozens of hydro-electric dams.

When bus routes get saturated, they started (1986) building Skytrains (mostly) elevated light rail. Sky trains go underground in downtown Vancouver and New Westminster. Basically, buses feed the Skytrain.
Diesel buses work medium and light density routes. The steepest suburban routes are served by 15-seater shuttle buses.
Buses routinely carry passengers across all the bridges, but Seabus (passenger ferry boats) connect downtown Vancouver to North Vancouver.

Commuter trains carry passengers from Mission to downtown only during rush hour. All these different methods of mass transit converge on Waterfront Station which is an old railroad station upgraded with Skytrain tunnels and a ferry dock.

Translink is heavily subsidized (some say 50%) because city fathers believe that mass transit is cheaper than building enough bridges to allow everyone to commute in their cars downtown. Downtown housing is so expensive that many downtown dwellers don't own cars.

Planners have also promised a new generation of electric buses that recharge at the end of every run. Drivers welcome this concept because current schedules are so ridiculously tight that drivers constantly bitch about "no time for pee breaks."

University of British Columbia students constantly demand a Skytrain line all the way out to UBC. Yes, it would be reasonable to build a Skytrain line parallel to the extremely busy Broadway corridor (Routes 9 and 99). Population density is enough to justify building a Skytrain line as far as Arbutus ..... they will not be able to extend all the way to UBC until people buy another thousand condos on university land (already building condos .....).

Every few years we hear a new rumour about building a cable car up to Simon Fraser University. And I emphasis the word "up" to SFU. My favourite form of aerobic exercise is hiking up the steep slopes of Burnaby Mountain. Diesel bus drivers loath SFU routes because roads are steep and Burnaby Mountain gets waaaaaaaay more snow and ice than "flat" routes.
If they continue building condos (on SFU land) at the current rate, it will only be a few more years until the population on top of Burnaby Mountain will be large enough to support a cable car. I wrote an ATL about a cable car going up to SFU.
 
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FWIW New Orleans had streetcars and electric buses. Some of the bus routes were former streetcar routes. The buses are long gone now, but the streetcars, which were down to one line, have been expanded and perhaps may be again.
 
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