AHC: greater Chinese immigration to the Philippines

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As with most emmigrations/immigrations: what situations would push the Chinese out from their homeland, and what conditions would pull them towards the Philippines in particular?

Also, would this be a spike of mass movement(refugees?) , or a steady surge over time (people looking for an opportunity?)
 
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Have to change American attitudes toward the Chinese.

And Filipino attitudes, too - it's one thing for "their" Chinese to be there (though even then, there historically has been some resentment) - it's another for recent immigrants to come. Remember this was the era where Filipino nationalism was very strong.
 
As with most emmigrations/immigrations: what situations would push the Chinese out from their homeland, and what conditions would pull them towards the Philippines in particular?

Also, would this be a spike of mass movement(refugees?) , or a steady surge over time (people looking for an opportunity?)

A failed Xinhai, perhaps? Leading to Sun's traditional support base in Southeast Asia becoming strengthened.
 
Let me repeat again: Chinese emigration pre-Communist was region-constrained. There are a limited amount of provinces, and within these provinces, a limited number of villages with a seagoing tradition. They are called Qiaoxiang or expat-homeland in China. The number of Chinese arriving in country A does not increase as dramatically as you think just because A relaxed their immigration policies, because these expat-homelands did not have that many people.

As for the challenge: maybe the OTL US-Philippines War got even bloodier, resulting in a even greater genocide than OTL in the Philippines, and the ethnic Chinese were somehow less victimized by this catastrophy.
 
Maybe in this ATL... the Boxer Rebellion and the general scare against anything foreign persons and foreign influenced scared the many hundreds of thousand of converted Mainland Chinese whom followed either the Protestant or Catholic faith to find refuge abroad to escape the pogrom being initiated against them....
 
As for the challenge: maybe the OTL US-Philippines War got even bloodier, resulting in a even greater genocide than OTL in the Philippines, and the ethnic Chinese were somehow less victimized by this catastrophy.

And how does that increase the rate of Chinese peoples in the Philippines?
 
And how does that increase the rate of Chinese peoples in the Philippines?

:confused: Maybe you misunderstood his post? That looks like basic logic to me. Unless there were no ethnic Chinese there then, disproportionally killing of Filipinos results in other ethnic groups become larger in percentage in the surviving population.
 
:confused: Maybe you misunderstood his post? That looks like basic logic to me. Unless there were no ethnic Chinese there then, disproportionally killing of Filipinos results in other ethnic groups become larger in percentage in the surviving population.

Victimisation is a vague term - I thought he meant it as in, victimised by the press.
Now it makes sense. Less Chinese killed in the massacre relative to Filipinos will, obviously, increase their proportional size.
 
Since the POD is 1894, just have the Chinese Exclusion Act never applied in the Philippines by the time Americans conquered the country. The application of the act lessen the flow of Chinese immigrants to the Philippines after Americans acquired the Philippines. However, I don't think it's enough to have the 20% of Filipino population being pure Chinese by today as you need a POD in the 17th century where the Spaniards instead tolerant and favorable to Chinese immigrants compared with OTL.
 
Since the POD is 1894, just have the Chinese Exclusion Act never applied in the Philippines by the time Americans conquered the country. The application of the act lessen the flow of Chinese immigrants to the Philippines after Americans acquired the Philippines. However, I don't think it's enough to have the 20% of Filipino population being pure Chinese by today as you need a POD in the 17th century where the Spaniards instead tolerant and favorable to Chinese immigrants compared with OTL.

With a POD in 1894, make the Chinese a significant majority(~20%) of the Philippine population.

There were alot of chinese immigrants in the philippines in OTL I think the chinese migration was due to the Ming falling...what would interest me is Javanese immigrants to Luzon not Chinese, because Luzon was influenced by the Javanese..from Medang and Majapahit..
 
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