AHC: Give Hitler Lebensraum Without Invading the Soviet Union

CaliGuy

Banned
Babies born of local women and occupying soldiers, in this case Germans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn#Implementation
OK. Also, I assume that Nazi Germany would resettle these children if it was desperate for more Germans, no?

In addition to this, I wonder what Nazi Germany is going to do with its Czech and Polish population. I mean, it probably wouldn't kill them, but would it try forcibly Germanizing them or simply try coercing them to emigrate?
 

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OK. Also, I assume that Nazi Germany would resettle these children if it was desperate for more Germans, no?

In addition to this, I wonder what Nazi Germany is going to do with its Czech and Polish population. I mean, it probably wouldn't kill them, but would it try forcibly Germanizing them or simply try coercing them to emigrate?
Depends on whether it would have access to them via the birthing hospitals, whether they married the German soldiers they were dating and came back to Germany, and whether they'd even have the babies. In the case of the Poles and Czechs, resettling them and letting them leave probably isn't an option, I get the feeling they do horrible things like forced sterilzation, 'Germanization', and keeping the men and women apart so they didn't have babies.
 
I disagree. For Hitler invading the USSR was the aim of the whole war. Well that and killing all the Jews, Gypsies, mental and physical disabled, homosexuals, communists, tradeunionists, Jehova's witnesses, etc etc etc so the
Germans will be pure.
It does not matter what you give him those will still be his aims.
 
In addition to this, I wonder what Nazi Germany is going to do with its Czech and Polish population.
Under Generalplan Ost 50% of Czechs and 85% of Poles were designated to be killed and the remainder either Germanized or forced into slavery on German plantations.
 
There is nowhere else that fit the bill. Hitler wanted Germany to be a single, self sufficient state in a similar the manner of the USA. Russia is the best way to achieve his goals.
 

CaliGuy

Banned
Depends on whether it would have access to them via the birthing hospitals, whether they married the German soldiers they were dating and came back to Germany, and whether they'd even have the babies. In the case of the Poles and Czechs, resettling them and letting them leave probably isn't an option, I get the feeling they do horrible things like forced sterilzation, 'Germanization', and keeping the men and women apart so they didn't have babies.
Wasn't abortion illegal in Nazi Germany, though?

Also, in regards to the Poles, encouraging them to emigrate to Brazil was seriously considered by the Nazi leadership:

https://books.google.com/books?id=P...=onepage&q=nazi polish problem brazil&f=false
 

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Wasn't abortion illegal in Nazi Germany, though?

Also, in regards to the Poles, encouraging them to emigrate to Brazil was seriously considered by the Nazi leadership:

https://books.google.com/books?id=PeUKT6d9khIC&pg=PT343&dq=nazi+polish+problem+brazil&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8_7uHhJTVAhVI8GMKHfoYDdMQ6AEIOjAE#v=onepage&q=nazi polish problem brazil&f=false
It was also illegal in Romania during Communism. Still happened though.
The Nazis also tried to get Jews to emigrate. No one would take them in the numbers that were needed and that was a population of 500k people.
 

CaliGuy

Banned
It was also illegal in Romania during Communism. Still happened though.

True (up to a point; after all, Romania's TFR during this time was higher than that of all other Warsaw Pact countries, if I recall correctly).

The Nazis also tried to get Jews to emigrate. No one would take them in the numbers that were needed and that was a population of 500k people.

Fair point; thus, if no one accepts these Czechs and Poles, we're probably going to see forced sterilization and/or extermination for them (well, for the ones who aren't deemed to be "Germanizable"), aren't we? :(
 

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True (up to a point; after all, Romania's TFR during this time was higher than that of all other Warsaw Pact countries, if I recall correctly).
Don't know, probably was. The Nazis would probably have the highest birthrate in Europe besides of parts of the USSR. It just wouldn't be as high as they'd like, like it was pre-WW1.

Fair point; thus, if no one accepts these Czechs and Poles, we're probably going to see forced sterilization and/or extermination for them (well, for the ones who aren't deemed to be "Germanizable"), aren't we? :(
There is a reason the Nazis were the most evil bastards of the 20th century, which included Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao.
 
Find a way for Hitler and Nazi Germany to acquire more land and natural resources without bringing the weight of the Red Army into the conflict?

create East European, Baltics & Balkans bloc, Hungary and Bulgaria are natural allies, Poland and the Little Entente countries (Czechoslovakia-Romania-Yugoslavia) are not.
 
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