...the challenge is to make this development happen by 1400 AD.
However, you may choose any PoD as far back 600 BC.
However, you may choose any PoD as far back 600 BC.
Just let Rechila and Rechiar conquer it all from Rome, and then they can Germanify Iberia. Vorwarts Schwaben!
Were the Suevi known for being being more numerous or committed to their original language than the Visigoths or Vandals?
Had there even been enough numbers of Suevians ? Conquest of Iberia would not lead to a fully Germanization.Were the Suevi known for being being more numerous or committed to their original language than the Visigoths or Vandals?
Were there even enough numbers uf Suevis? And also later Goth conquest of Iberia would not lead to a fully Germanization given how divers this place os.
it would interesting if someone wrote a timeline where the germanic tribes keep their language and custom either by mass migration or by depopulating the Wertern Roman Empire
I mean hey, the "ever supreme" Anglo-Saxon race was able to force nearly the entire Native American population, most people in Asia, and pretty much all urban Africans into adopting European customs. Yeah, I know the technological distance between the Suevi and Hispans is much shorter than that between colonial-era Europeans and people from other continents (significant offense to non-Europeans intended) but it's still the same principle. The Mongols did it to plenty of countries like Iran, Central Asia, and China as they adopted Mongol habits after the conquests.
Of course. If the same model of germanization in Britain happen in rest of Western Europe and North Africa with the Vandals, where would the Romanized people do or go would be interesting. Although Its less probable in africaThat's what happened in Britain, essentially - the Anglo-Saxon tribes moved en masse (barring some Frisians stayed in Frisia), while Celtic tribes already in Britain died out both from a convenient plague at the time and endless Celtic-Germanic warfare, allowing the English to form England and the mass of surviving British converging in Wales and Brittany.
Of course. If the same model of germanization in Britain happen in rest of Western Europe and North Africa with the Vandals, where would the Romanized people do or go would be interesting. Although Its less probable in africa
Well The turks didnt adopt greek even though they were outnumber in AnatoliaI don't know if it can happen, what happened in Britain was really a perfect storm - the British Celts were far more rural and less in number than even the Hispano-Romans to say nothing of the Gallo-Romans, which is why both war and plague allowed the English to retain their ethnic consciousness compared to other Germanics. Beyond that the British were reverting to Celtic customs and language if they ever stopped doing so in the first place, which meant no Latin prestige for the English to adopt.
England was essentially the exception to the rule of the Franks, Goths, Suebi, Lombards, Burgundians, Vandals, etc.
That's what happened in Britain, essentially - the Anglo-Saxon tribes moved en masse (barring some Frisians stayed in Frisia), while Celtic tribes already in Britain died out both from a convenient plague at the time and endless Celtic-Germanic warfare, allowing the English to form England and the mass of surviving British converging in Wales and Brittany.
Of course. If the same model of germanization in Britain happen in rest of Western Europe and North Africa with the Vandals, where would the Romanized people do or go would be interesting. Although Its less probable in africa
Could a visigothic Iberia in a no Islam scenario hold out?
then in order to imitate britain situation we destroy Roman Istituition in Western EuropeThe peculiar situation of England was that its Romano-British institutions collapsed in the wake of the Anglo-Saxon conquest, causing the latter to have to basically rebuild society. This was in contrast to places like Gaul, where the Roman civilization largely survived and the Franks just became the new overlords.