AHC: Georgia secedes from the CSA during the Civil War

I read somewhere that Governor Brown had threatened that Georgia would secede from the Confederacy if President Davis didn't stop being such a tyrant. Is there a way to get Georgia to secede during the war, in such a way that it causes the CSA to fight it, too?

I was thinking that if Buell wins a race to Chattanooga and takes it in summer of 1862 - if Georgia is threatened, he may feel his state is threatened enough he orders all Georgian troops home, which would put the South at a real disadvantage.

What would Lincoln do? i think he's wise enough to let the sides fight it out rather than enter Georgia; becasue Grant's got Vicksburg to worry about (if Buell doesn't have to focus westward because Shiloh is an easier win, he probably still has to learn some lessons he didn't there, perhaps facing a more serious bloodletting further south before deciding to lay siege to Vicksburg instead.) And, of course, the AotP still has its problems.

Hardee would likely jump at the chance to defend his home state given his squabbles OTL with Bragg and Hood; he would probably figure he could defend his state. And, if the Unio decides on a hands-off approach and just holds Chattanooga with some thrusts into the far north of Georgia, where would the South attack from? Would they be fighting a two-front war/ Or would DAvis simply agree, "Okay Georgia, you want to be on your own you've got it" and just request that his military be allowed to move through it. (Which I'm sure they'd grant, the argument wasn't about not being part of a loose confederation, Georgia just wanted Davis to stop commandeering their troops and food.)
 
Relations between the various State Governors and the Confederate Government definitely were problematic throughout the war and I have seen that reference myself.
 

samcster94

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I can imagine them being occupied or being pro-Union(not out of sympathy for black people, but more out of necessity).
 
The CSA is certainly in trouble. If they don't go after Georgia over it not only do they lose Georgia but less importantly Florida as it is cut off. Georgia is one of the bigger Southern states and produces quite a bit that it needs. Atlanta was second only to Richmond in arms production IIRC.

If they go after Georgia , they are pulling troops from the front line. They are also making their hypocrisy plain to everyone including their own troops. In any case you can expect mass desertions of Georgian troops if the CSA doesn't simply let them go home, which I doubt.
 
The war will end in a hurry. I could see some quiet back door negotiation going on between Lincoln and Georgia, perhaps with certain guarantees being given...such as regarding slavery. When the Emancipation Proclamation is proclaimed, Georgia might find itself not in the covered area, if it had agreed to rejoin the union undr the right conditions.
(Such negotiations may well get out before they get very far, leading to Civil War in Georgia regarding the "treason.")

If Georgia secedes from the CSA, it avoids Sherman's March, and the wheels come off in the south.

Post war, I can really see a "Stab in the back" mythology that makes OTL's German "stab in the back" mythology look like a children's tale. Reconstruction will be interesting, with LOTS of very hard feelings, murders, lynchings, and more among the white population. This could be a VERY interesting timeline!
 
Thanks - I'm pretty sure I saw the mention on these boards; here is a site that alludes to it and discusses the part the CSA's Vice President may have played, too, in 1864, though it would be a challenge to have them do it by 1862 I wonder if something like "The Union Forever" could cause it if it's Chattanooga where the big win is in summer of '62.

I'll hve to think about it, anyway, as I consider restarting/resuming that open thread as just a straight timeline starting with a much more decisive Union win at Shiloh. I might redact a few little things but there were some interesting ideas I had.
 
It seems unlikely, but if Georgia did secede from the Confederacy, there's a chance North Carolina would as well.
 
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