AHC French King HRE

If the electors are willing, yes.

Not sure why they would be, as the king of France might able to make the imperial position mean something.

Or simply not be able to offer sufficient bribes, depending.
 
If the electors are willing, yes.

Not sure why they would be, as the king of France might able to make the imperial position mean something.

Or simply not be able to offer sufficient bribes, depending.
Yeah I was thinking something like how Charles became HRE. But in this scenario Francis succeeds and Charles fails.This would surely balance the power in Europe right? or would the favor shift to France from Spain.
 
Yeah I was thinking something like how Charles became HRE. But in this scenario Francis succeeds and Charles fails.This would surely balance the power in Europe right? or would the favor shift to France from Spain.

I'd say its still Spain-tilted, but a lot depends on what happens with France...the Habsburg inheritance even without the HRE title is powerful, and without it they're not the ones caught up fighting over imperial authority.
 
If i remember correctly in the 1519 election of HRE Francis I was also a candidate abd had managed to gain some support by bribing some electors... But Charles I of Spain had deeper pockets and managed to win the election (the Fugger Bankers loaned him 543.000 florins to secure election).
So if Fugger and other bankers do not loan Charles then Francis I would have won election propably thus becoming Holy Roman Emperor...
 
Claim from what? The Habsburgs have them as an inheritance, what does Francis I have to claim them?

The fact that Charles the Bold died without male issue allowed the French Crown to claim that his lands should have reverted to it. (This one reason why the Hapsburg swere left holding just a tiny bit of French Burgundy.) Needless to say, they and the Hapsburgs were constantly reaching agreements on this point after a great deal of fighting, backing out of them, and then starting it again--a good chunk of the Italian Wars was fought in Ducal Burgundy.

Now--if Francis is HRE, he not only has that old chestnut, but they'll owe him homage for bits of Burgundy, AND he can enlist their rivals to his cause by promising them chunks of Hapsburg land.

So, trust me--the family's going to move heaven and earth to keep him from being elected.
 
The fact that Charles the Bold died without male issue allowed the French Crown to claim that his lands should have reverted to it. (This one reason why the Hapsburg swere left holding just a tiny bit of French Burgundy.) Needless to say, they and the Hapsburgs were constantly reaching agreements on this point after a great deal of fighting, backing out of them, and then starting it again--a good chunk of the Italian Wars was fought in Ducal Burgundy.

Now--if Francis is HRE, he not only has that old chestnut, but they'll owe him homage for bits of Burgundy, AND he can enlist their rivals to his cause by promising them chunks of Hapsburg land.

So, trust me--the family's going to move heaven and earth to keep him from being elected.

Good point/s, but that doesn't apply to the Disunited Provinces.
 
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