AHC: French-German Alliance

With a POD no earlier then the declaration of the German Empire in 1871. and no later then the Morocco Crisis in 1905, I challenge you to somehow form a unholy alliance between the French and the Kaiserreich.
 
With a POD no earlier then the declaration of the German Empire in 1871. and no later then the Morocco Crisis in 1905, I challenge you to somehow form a unholy alliance between the French and the Kaiserreich.

Well, for starters, they'll need a common enemy. That's just about the only way to get the two on the same side.
 
Those seem like the most plausible, although I fail to see what quarrel France would have with Russia (maybe the Poland issue, but that's also a problem with Germany).


Maybe a worse Morocco Crisis then OTL causes France to become drifted further away from Britain (to my knowledge Britain and France only started to thaw there relationship after this) and then due to quarrells in Africa, Germany and France get a common enemy in Britain?


or is there a more reasonable scenario?
 
Maybe a worse Morocco Crisis then OTL causes France to become drifted further away from Britain (to my knowledge Britain and France only started to thaw there relationship after this) and then due to quarrells in Africa, Germany and France get a common enemy in Britain?


or is there a more reasonable scenario?

If you can get Britain to view France as a threat to their interests around this time period, then maybe a Franco-German alliance would be possible. Perhaps a French expansion of its Navy pisses off GB, and Germany, seeking a greater counterweight to the RN (along with the KM), decides to side with France?

Of course, none of this may be possible at all, what with Germany holding Alsace-Lorraine. France was never happy about that one.
 

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With a POD no earlier then the declaration of the German Empire in 1871. and no later then the Morocco Crisis in 1905, I challenge you to somehow form a unholy alliance between the French and the Kaiserreich.


Early Russian Revolution that results in a regicidal regime similar to the French reign of terror sending shockwaves throughout all of Europe.
 
With a POD no earlier then the declaration of the German Empire in 1871. and no later then the Morocco Crisis in 1905, I challenge you to somehow form a unholy alliance between the French and the Kaiserreich.

Not going to happen until Germany give back Alsace Lorraine to France. Any politician willing to ally with the boche without getting back those will be destroyed and his party with him. And the German Empire is to fond of creating colonies in Europe to do that.

Early Russian Revolution that results in a regicidal regime similar to the French reign of terror sending shockwaves throughout all of Europe.

France would applaud the Tsar being killed by revolutionaries if they are not allied to him and those revolutionaries are not bolsheviks.
 
Not going to happen until Germany give back Alsace Lorraine to France. Any politician willing to ally with the boche without getting back those will be destroyed and his party with him. And the German Empire is to fond of creating colonies in Europe to do that.

A French-German alliance might crop up from the "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" mindset. They might put aside their differences over Alsace-Lorraine to fight their common enemy, whomever that might be.

There is actually a parallel OTL, namely China during the 1930s. The two sides of the civil war joined together when the Japanese invaded in 1937.
 
Precisely, you need to change slightly the outcome of the 1871 war. Still a French defeat, and still some hatred between the two countries at the beginning. But France doesn't lose Alsace-Lorraine.

Then, the colonial rivalries, the German industrial concurrence to Britain, and the naval race between Germany and Britain (and, possibly France as well), could bring together France and Germany.
 
A French-German alliance might crop up from the "an enemy of my enemy is my friend" mindset. They might put aside their differences over Alsace-Lorraine to fight their common enemy, whomever that might be.

What common enemy ? No one is in position to endanger France, except Germany. Italy ? God created the Austrian so they could win a war. The UK ? They can take every colony, they could never take any territory on the mainland. Spain ? I'm kidding. No one else could really threaten France, except Germany.

Precisely, you need to change slightly the outcome of the 1871 war. Still a French defeat, and still some hatred between the two countries at the beginning. But France doesn't lose Alsace-Lorraine.

Then, the colonial rivalries, the German industrial concurrence to Britain, and the naval race between Germany and Britain (and, possibly France as well), could bring together France and Germany.

Yep, only possibility for France to be friend with Germany is that Germany don't annex any French territory. And Germany not trying to bully around everyone.
 
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