AHC:France under National Front

samcster94

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What is the easiest way to get France under the FN or some other far right party?
Bonus points if it happens after 1962.
 

Archibald

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The FN was created in 1972. until 2008 it was run by Jean Marie Le Pen, a man that make Donald J. Trump look mentally sane. there is no way JMLP become president: and yes, April 21, 2002 was an accident. Le Pen himself later declared he had been taken by surprise and that him and the FN were absolutely not ready to govern France.

That make 2016 the FN best chance. Down in the French politics thread (in chat) we examined such scenarios. Let's say Macron is never born in 1977 and then France history proceeds as per OTL until 2015 or so. Hollande's PS is dead and buried, since hollande presidency was an utter disaster. Let's say the PS candidate is either Manuel Valls or Benoit Hamon. It doesn't matter, because they hate each other, plus Hollande. And Melenchon. this makes the left entirely fractioned.

So just like in 2002, it is the French right versus the Front National. Then Fillon scandals happens in February (as per OTL), just in time to ruin his candidacy but too late for the French right to pick Juppé or somebody else. With the left dead and Melenchon too much of a loudmouth scarecrow to picks enough vote, Fillon versus Marine Le Pen for round two.
Then with a little help from the Murphy law (if everything can go wrong, it does) Marine Le Pen hammers Fillon with its scandals during the debate. Add a small scale terrorist attack at the wrong time and voilà, freakkin' Marine Le Pen is president, and France is screwed as much as the United States.

Major shitstorm follows.

As for me, I picks my wife, my kid and my elder sister and get away from France. Either I settle in Barcelona, Spain; or at La Réunion island 5000 miles away. But metropolitan France is dead to me.
 
If we define "under the FN" to mean an FN president, then 2017--very unlikely but not impossible--is too recent (basically current events). Anything before then is *extremely* unlikely. Jean-Marie Le Pen shocked many people by getting into the second round in 2002 but in the end only got 17.8 percent there to Chirac's 82.2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election,_2002 In a runoff against Jospin, Le Pen might have done better, but not nearly well enough to win.

There is one faint possibility I mentioned in a post here last year:

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Jean-Marie Le Pen vs. a Trotskyist in the second round of the French presidential race of 2002? Not totally inconceivable. The three Trotskyist candidates--Arlette Laguiller of the Lutte Ouvriere, Olivier Besancenot of the Ligue Communiste Revolutionnaire, and Daniel Gluckstein of the Parti des Travailleurs--got a combined 10.44 percent of the vote, not *that* far behind Jospin (16.18%) and Le Pen (16.88%) and Chirac (19.88%). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_presidential_election,_2002 Even if the Trotskyists, so notorious for their splits, had been able to unite, it is unlikely their candidate would make it to the second round, but not impossible--let's say Chirac is even more tarnished with scandal than in OTL and Jospin is even more unpopular, and maybe also for some reason don't have the left-wing Euroskeptic Chevenement run, with the Trotskyists picking up some of his support.

So Le Pen and a Trotskyist make it to the second round. If this were *Marine* Le Pen, I think the Trotskyist would lose, but this is her much more strident father. If in OTL "vote for the crook [Chirac], not the fascist" prevailed, could "vote for the Trotskyist, not the fascist" do so in this ATL?

https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...-countries-but-not-ussr.396280/#post-12975675
 
Hollande pulls a Merkel: Le Pen would be president now. :)
Really? I dont think that'd be enough, seeing as Le Pen ultimately lost in a landslide, and she'd still have to get through Macron, Melenchon or Fillon, every one of whom was outpolling her by a good margin in final round match ups.
 
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