Would the Republicans put up the effort to reclaim their African holdings when they're attempting to consolidate over Spain itself? It seems that the Republicans would choose to abandon Morocco/Western Sahara for the immediate short-term so they might eventually come back during the Second World War when the Great Powers (including the supporting Axis Powers) are tied down in fighting one another.
AHC: Fascist African Country in the Axis Power
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Yes wouldn't be that hard given the colonies lack of population or resources to put a fight
Even after having spent themselves in a bloody civil war that's lasted for several years? As you said, the colonies lack a significant reserve of population numbers and/or resources so why not just leave the Nationalists in Morocco/Western Sahara to rot?
Western Sahara has phosphates and fisheries. In addition, it has battle hardened, and after experiencing relatives being executed by leftist factions, very determined defenders. Even after the war turns against the Axis, the allied colonial powers of France and Great Britain tacitly support the controlled independence of Western Sahara / Canary Islands as mainland Spain marches towards communism.
The quick thinking Spanish fascists also offer anchorage rights to Vichy warships- and also warn about leftists exporting revolution to Algeria and Morocco should they regain control of Western Sahara. Sure, the allies may make vague promises of allowing the Republicans to return "at the appropriate time". But, the "appropriate time" never seems to come.... .
Determined Spanish Legion, anti communist locals, other Spanish civil war veterans fighting for their new homes can deal with partially motivated republican conscripts supported by primitive logistics.
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It's still Spanish territory and threat to the legitimacy of the republic.
Who are more likely to settle in Portugal the right-wing country next to Spain with a similar climate and culture or the various right-wing Spanish speaking nations in the Americas .
Which aren't developed in the 1930s or are enough to support a high population not to mention the issues of food or weapons and ammo supply
Both of which of more pressing matters then Spanish Morocco not mention even if they didn't want a republican western Sahara. Why not annex it to French protectorate of morocco as opposed to leaving it under the Axis-friendly Franco.
Expect the republic was only started to face extreme far-left movement once it started severely losing so there no risk or reason in a republican victory of communist Spain.
My guess is that the Nazis would imitate the British "martial race" concept (also used by the French, but to a lesser degree) and declare convenient tribal peoples to be honorary Aryans due to the hyped warrior traditions.
Ashantis: This is the same tribe who controlled large parts of the African side of the slave trade. No doubt their present warrior traditions combined with their past uhmm...."accomplishments" (well at least in Himmler's eyes) make them honorary Aryans. Ditto for the related Akan people.
Togolese, Cameroonians: The imperial Germans would not have felt comfortable here had many of the the locals not had mystical "Aryan" ties.
Tanzanians: Not only the mystical stuff, but a certain number also added loyalty to the German Empire. Thus, they earn honorary Aryan status via a "warrior bond" with Germany.
This seems to be a good description of what might happen but the real question is whether or not these peoples can join the Axis against the Allies.
Absent a total Germany victory, I think the Axis are out of luck when it comes to enlisting sub Saharan Africans.
Makes me wonder what would've happened if the Free Arabian Legion had been larger.
The "Young Egypt Party" were there local thugs plotting the putsch at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Egypt_Party_(1933)
Marcus Garvey considered himself a Fascist, until Mussolini invaded Ethiopia. He also had some plans for Liberia. My theory is he brings much African American and Afro Caribbean population work force to pay Liberia's debt, and then create ties with the Axis, eventually modeling Liberia along the lines of a Fascist state.
"We were the first fascists, when we had 100,000 disciplined men, and were training children, Mussolini was still an unknown. Mussolini copied our Fascism."
"We were the first fascists, when we had 100,000 disciplined men, and were training children, Mussolini was still an unknown. Mussolini copied our Fascism."
My third idea is local ethnic Fascist movements break out, effectively throwing the colonies into Chaos, and being supported by the Axis. The chaos created would be akin to Mau Mau or Simba but under a different flag.
If we see the Second Italo-Ethiopian War either being avoided or Ethiopia is Finlandized, could Marcus Garvey come to Ethiopia and assist in developing a genuine Afro-Fascist movement?
Could happen if the German-educated Gebre-Hiwot Baykedagn becomes attracted to socialism in Germany but opts to establish an African/Ethiopian "variant" which comes to resemble the writings of Kita Ikki and Benito Mussolini's revolutionary nationalism. This provides the impetus from which Fascist thought in Ethiopia evolves as Gebre-Hiwot's works becomes a subject of interest among the Ethiopian intelligentsia while he becomes a prominent advisor to the Ethiopian government when Haile Selassie takes power in 1913. As an advisor to HS, Gebre-Hiwot's attempts to convince the Atse to emulate Japanese modernization prove successful with the establishment of Japanese-Ethiopian relations in 1915-16 as Japanese advisors arrive in Ethiopia to assist with Ethiopian modernization while young Ethiopian students arrive in Japan to receive an education.
In Tokyo, Ethiopian intellectuals read Kita Ikki's The Theory of Japan's National Polity and Pure Socialism and An Outline Plan for the Reorganization of Japan where parallels are drawn with Gebre-Hiwot's own literature as they add upon the latter's writings with inspiration from these works. Ethiopian students in Italy during the 1920s do the same with Fascist literature as the tenets of Fascism are also applied to Gebre-Hiwot's works, allowing for the creation of a genuinely Fascist Ethiopian ideology under one man (someone like Tekle Wolde Hawariat) in the late 1920s. Under the influence of TTL's Ethio-Fascism, Haile Selassie begins to see it as a means of ensuring absolute control over Ethiopia and to hasten Ethiopian modernization as he turns to the world's Fascist countries to provide assistance - this includes Mussolini's Italy and an interested Japan.
By the early 1930s, Haile Selassie is firmly in control of Ethiopia after quietly getting rid of the nobles who oppose his reforms and crushing those who dare revolt against his rule as reforms are implemented in earnest with the backing of the Japanese. Throughout the 1930s, he focuses on instituting Fascism in a top-down fashion that comes to resemble Fascist Italy's process while also taking inspiration from Imperial Japan, Metaxist Greece, Salazar's Portugal and Nazi Germany in Ethiopian modernization. Meanwhile, Italy is attempting to encroach on Ethiopia's sovereignty while planning to displace the significant Japanese influence in East Africa - Ethiopia continues protecting her sovereignty via the growing Imperial Ethiopian Army with Japanese backing.
Yes. Perhaps try and get halie selassie gugsa to patronize the ideology in revenge for not getting the title he wanted. I think Ethiopian fascism would be much like integralism, very focused on agricultural coroporatism.
Haile Selassie Gugsa becoming a Fascist sounds pretty interesting but it seems like it'd only happen in a scenario where the Hoare-Laval Pact goes through.
While that's an interesting description of Ethiopian Fascism, I think it'd be a combination of certain strains - Italian Fascism, Japanese Fascism, Metaxism, Falangism, etc.
Ethiopia didn’t have a very large urban middle class of working class. Similar to Brazil in that aspect. Thus the pusher of the movement is it is primarily agrarian. Also, we cannot forget that Ethiopia is made of 90+ ethnic groups, so it might be a cultural or territorial nationalism. Perhaps get some Aksumite folklore into it, I don’t know. Metaxism might be an influencer as well. For imperialism, yes Japanese fascism might have its role. I confess I don’t know what role Falange should play. However yes Italian fascism is in almost every fascist ideology.
Ethiopia only has 80 different ethnolinguistic groups but I can see what you mean - cultural nationalism centered around the northern Habeshas could definitely work.
Yes sorry added the wrong digit lol. I certainly believe they will push to modernize the southern tribes.