AHC: Explicitly Fascist Govt Arises in Post-'45 Europe

Not in Europe, but would Ba'athist Syria or Iraq be considered fascist?

Or how about some of the Latin American military juntas?
 

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Not in Europe, but would Ba'athist Syria or Iraq be considered fascist?

Or how about some of the Latin American military juntas?

Ba'athist Iraq, maybe. It certainly included some fascist economic and propaganda ritual ideas.

Syria, less so, because it was even more than Iraq a case of minority rule, and Syria as a nation state was never truly glorified in a way that Saddam did with Iraq.

As for the juntas, no. Right Wing Authoritarian =/= Fascist, and this must be stressed and repeated until the message is clear. Its not the same. Fascism is a revolutionary mass political movement. Tinpot juntas were a way for the entrenched existing elite in Latin America to hold onto power with the aid of the transnational Latin American military establishments propping up. They were the enemy of fascists, being reactionaries. The Brazilian Integralists were about as close as it got.
 
Ba'athist Iraq, maybe. It certainly included some fascist economic and propaganda ritual ideas.

Syria, less so, because it was even more than Iraq a case of minority rule, and Syria as a nation state was never truly glorified in a way that Saddam did with Iraq.

As for the juntas, no. Right Wing Authoritarian =/= Fascist, and this must be stressed and repeated until the message is clear. Its not the same. Fascism is a revolutionary mass political movement. Tinpot juntas were a way for the entrenched existing elite in Latin America to hold onto power with the aid of the transnational Latin American military establishments propping up. They were the enemy of fascists, being reactionaries. The Brazilian Integralists were about as close as it got.

Fair enough. Point taken about military juntas.

In Syria's case, how about if the Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP, just National Socialist re-arranged and they even have a swastika on their flag) took power?

Also, are there any post-colonial African regimes that could have gone fascist? I'm thinking people like Bokassa, Gaddafi, Mobutu, or Idi Amin. Maybe even a (non-communist version) of the Derg in Ethiopia.
 
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