AHC : explain this linguistic map







The date is around 1990 AD. The legend is in one of the local languages and represents families rather than individual tongues.

Most names are obvious but some other are not so :

Swevesc is BAltic (Old Prussian, Latvian...)
Hajerenesc is Armenian
Tycesc is turkic
Sysc is Semitic (mostly Arameic)
Tamasesc is Berber
Katvelesc is Georgian
Lagoresc is Chukotko-Kamchatkan
Althjeropesc are (seemingly) unrelated relict pre-indo-european or pre-uralic language.

The POD is obviously later than the conquest of Dacia by Trajan, but aside from that...
 
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Syagrius defeats Clovis, while the Bitons drive back the Saxons, leaving a Celtic Northwestern Europe and a gradually Romanized Visigothic Aquitaine?
 

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The spelling looks oddly Old English considering there isn't an Old English language on the map...which language is the key written in?
 
the roman empire must have fallen earlier. germanic migrations must have been stronger, displacing many of the celtic languages in gaul that the latins had not already. but the romans/germans must have not been strong enough to defeat the amoricans.

it would seem the romans never invaded britain.

carthage never fell to the arabs... but they held more firmly to iberia and seemingly a bit further. maybe without a former strong roman presence, and the squablings between germanic, celtic, and latin groups, they made were never pushed out.

the magyars must have migrated with less resistance.

and, the slavs remained in central europe, and did not push east... is that gothic in thrace, or something slavic?

the greeks were never defeated by the turks. it would seem the eastern roman empire was much stronger ITTL, and so, apparently, were either the Sarmatians or the Huns, because a trukic speaking population is north of the black sea. tha Alans must have settled in Gaul, or Attila the Hun defeated Aetius and made camp there... I think that's the POD, Attila the Hun defeated and destroyed the Roman Empire
 
AHC : explain this linguistic map


Honestly, I can't. I have no idea how the hell this map would come about. I would guess the POD is before 2000 BC, given all the surviving "Old European" languages depicted. The Chukotko-Kamchatkan language in France is honestly the craziest thing I've ever seen:cool:. I'm guessing the language of the key is Germanic, most likely North Sea Germanic...I also like the massive Armenia wank.

Please explain!!
 
The language of the map is gutesc, an eastern Germanic language spoken in OTL Catalonia. The Kamtchakan is indeed a bit crazy, but I liked the idea (initially I thought of Yenniseian but couldn't find a decent grammar / dictionary, so I settled for Kamtchakan). The idea is that a Paleosiberian nomad tribes took a ride alongside the Huns or the Avars and settled there ala Magyar.

It is not as absurd as it sounds. A Yenniseian interpretation of the Xiong-Nu core language makes sense and the Merkit may have been Paleo-Siberian.

I'm still thinking out the timeline but the idea is that the Roman Empire fell later but more completely than in OTL, so instead of big Germanic kingdoms we have a myriad of successor statelets which get taken over by various local warlords, a bit like in Britain.
 
I have heard of the Yeniseian-Hunnish connection before yes. If it's true, it would mean that the Huns and Apache are linguistic cousins. I guess it's possible that a tribe could have migrated from Kamchatka to France, although quite unlikely. But yeah, it is difficult to come by any substantial information about the Yeniseian languages online, so I see why you chose a Chukotko-Kamchatkan tribe.

Hmmm, I was sure the legend was in an alternate form of English. The "sc" strikes me as being very Anglo-Saxon... Do the ogoneks under the vowels represent nasalization, or something else?

I will definately be reading this TL, if you ever develop it that far.
 
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