AHC: Explain the history of this world

The POD is 1300, the current year is 1800. Explain how each nation came to be, blah blah blah. I'm bored, and I want to see what other people think how this world came to be.

Legend:

Pink: English-Welsh Empire
Light Blue: Scottish Empire
Navy: Scandinavian Union
Blue: French Empire
Green: Portuguese Empire
Orange: Castillan Empire
Red: Aragonese Empire
Light Yellow: Papal States and the New Crusader States
Yellow: Knight's of Saint-John
Gray: Prussian Empire
Tan: Austrian Empire
Purple: Russian Empire
Dark Green: Ottoman Sultanate
Pale Blue: Islamic Republic of Ethiopia
Light Green: Ethiopian Empire
Fuschia: Tawantinsuyu
Brown: Republic of the Iroquois
Dark Red: Li Dynasty of China
White: Japanese Feudal Shogunates

POD 1300 YEAR 1780.png
 
Last edited:
...I'm not sure it can.

Some of these seem feasible enough on their own, but I'm not sure if the interactions between powers would produce this combination.

For instance and most obviously:
Having the Crusader States and the Ottoman Empire (with those borders) both exist...

No. Not going to happen in any quasi-realistic scenario.

On the other hand, having Castile and Aragon each have their own empires is...interesting.

Not sure what to make of the events in the HRE - that seems to be pushing things.

Related note: What is that France+ in the blue supposed to be?
 
For instance and most obviously:
Having the Crusader States and the Ottoman Empire (with those borders) both exist...

No. Not going to happen in any quasi-realistic scenario
I think crusader states is possible as the second crusader states;) And I said nothing about them lasting. Think something like Napoleons invasion into Egypt going on, a general looking for glory by pulling a megalomania stunt. Then in few months he is going to have to leave the mainland but may manage to keep the islands if TTL ottomans don´t have a good navy.

Only question is who funds said general and why. Could be a good story.

Some of these seem feasible enough on their own, but I'm not sure if the interactions between powers would produce this combination.
This is true. And one of the reasons most people focus on one POD and the possible effects of that.

The Aragonese and Castillan empires seem possible to me as well. After all Portugal managed to have an empire. Edit: However Aragon doesn´t have any access to the atlantic which might make building a colonial empire challenge. Also the bits they have of Brazil and other south american nations seem a bit strange. Portugal in TTL has the most logical bits.

The islamic republic of Ethiopia seems bizarre. Ok, it is possible that an islamic invasion results in Ethiopia converting to Islam.

Republic?

But, yes, on the whole unfeasible which is why it is a fun challenge.
 
For instance and most obviously:
Having the Crusader States and the Ottoman Empire (with those borders) both exist...

Related note: What is that France+ in the blue supposed to be?

Well, they aren't the crusader states from the 1st or so crusades, they are from a much later, succesful one.

Sorry, forgot that. Any colour that is similair to France's colour (not to be confused with Scotland or Islamic-Ethiopia) is part of the French Empire.
 
I think crusader states is possible as the second crusader states;) And I said nothing about them lasting. Think something like Napoleons invasion into Egypt going on, a general looking for glory by pulling a megalomania stunt. Then in few months he is going to have to leave the mainland but may manage to keep the islands if TTL ottomans don´t have a good navy.

Only question is who funds said general and why. Could be a good story.
[/quote]

There's a difference between "temporary occupation of Jerusalem" and "reestablished kingdom".

Even the former is going to be difficult with or without a Napoleon - since TTL's Ottomans don't seem to be splintering conveniently (could be wrong, but that's my interpretation of the solid green).

This is true. And one of the reasons most people focus on one POD and the possible effects of that.

The Aragonese and Castillan empires seem possible to me as well. After all Portugal managed to have an empire. Edit: However Aragon doesn´t have any access to the atlantic which might make building a colonial empire challenge. Also the bits they have of Brazil and other south american nations seem a bit strange. Portugal in TTL has the most logical bits.

The islamic republic of Ethiopia seems bizarre. Ok, it is possible that an islamic invasion results in Ethiopia converting to Islam.

Republic?

But, yes, on the whole unfeasible which is why it is a fun challenge.
Yeah. Some of this stuff I think would be very interesting to see, its just that some of it doesn't seem possible.

I'm not familiar enough with the 1300 OTL situation to properly come up with explanations without more thought, so I'm focusing on commenting on what I can make sense of to see try to get an idea of this world.

Well, they aren't the crusader states from the 1st or so crusades, they are from a much later, succesful one.

Sorry, forgot that. Any colour that is similair to France's colour (not to be confused with Scotland or Islamic-Ethiopia) is part of the French Empire.
A much later, successful crusade reestablishing the Crusader States in the same timeline as an Ottoman Empire at least as successful as OTL in the Levant, Anatolia, and Egypt. Not going to happen. Those are essentially mutually exclusive.

And gotcha on France.

Was wondering if we were supposed to assume a Scottish-French union (which would have been cool - nothing wrong with what we have, just that it would be a nice thing to try to explaining) or something.


One thing that catches my attention in a positive way: It looks like France and Castile have recently had a war, or something else where the amount of orange-colored territory in "North America" has changed. Interesting.
 
Top