AHC: Earliest Possible Spanish Republic

With a POD from 1800 onwards, use any means possible to form an early Spanish Republic than IOTL of the late 1800's. Bonus points if it survives to the 20th century.
 
If the PoD and the Republic must be after 1800, then I'd go for a vastly different 1848 across the continent, spilling into Spain, too, which was less affected IOTL.
If the Republic may be earlier, I remember a timeline from last year about a successful Comuneros Revolt and a republican-confederal Spain from the 16th century on. Intriguing idea IMO and quite plausible, too.
 
If the PoD and the Republic must be after 1800, then I'd go for a vastly different 1848 across the continent, spilling into Spain, too, which was less affected IOTL.
If the Republic may be earlier, I remember a timeline from last year about a successful Comuneros Revolt and a republican-confederal Spain from the 16th century on. Intriguing idea IMO and quite plausible, too.

The POD must be 1800 onwards, but I like the idea! Quite a good POD.

Is it possible for liberals to support a republic if say, Ferdinand VII dies without an heir (let's say January 1830, before Isabelle II's birth) and when she is born, she is stillborn. The only heir left would be Don Carlos, a reactionary and strongly absolutist ruler. This could cause liberals to realize that a king was not necessary, and go against Carlos for his policies (thus an alternate Carlist War?)

These are just my suggestions, as my Spanish history is still quite rough.
 
Hm, 1830 looks quite too close to the Triennio Liberal and the French occupation. Even if the Situation in france itself changed.

Better to have the Triennio Liberal succeed somehow, though how they could withstand Europe's United reactionary forces is beyond me.
 
In 1800, Spain breaks the peace of Basel and war resumes with France. This backfires as French revolutionary forces advance on Madrid and Charles IV flees. The Hispanic Republic is then created.
 
In 1800, Spain breaks the peace of Basel and war resumes with France. This backfires as French revolutionary forces advance on Madrid and Charles IV flees. The Hispanic Republic is then created.
I think the best PoD for such a scenario would be Napoleon being defeated, but somehow not killed, at the Battle of Marengo. Which is hard, i'm afraid, considering that France would lose the strategic initiative from that point on in.
 
It's 5 years early but I know one Juan Picornell lead a conspiracy to overthrow the monarchy and create a republic of Spain.
 

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During the Napoleonic Wars, King Ferdinand attempted to follow the Portuguese example and flee to the New world, probably New Spain. He was captured and was kept secured in France as Napoleon's "guest" while Napoleon installed his brother as new King of Spain.

So POD is Ferdinand does flee to new world. Napoleon then established either a single Spanish Republic with his brother as President or separate Republics playing off Catalonian or Basque nationalistic feelings. Napoleon is still defeated but Republicanism takes root in the Iberian Peninsula. A civil war breaks out after the war between Republic and Monarchist forces. Republics win and while Monarchy either dies or remains in New World. You could have Republic of Spain on the Iberian Peninsula and Kingdom of Spain in what is now Mexico.
 
In 1800, Spain breaks the peace of Basel and war resumes with France. This backfires as French revolutionary forces advance on Madrid and Charles IV flees. The Hispanic Republic is then created.

Reviving this thread; would this work? Weren't the people of Spain loyal to the Spanish King and thus would resist French occupation?
 
Reviving this thread; would this work? Weren't the people of Spain loyal to the Spanish King and thus would resist French occupation?

There would surely be Spanish royalists who would resist. This régime would however have the benefit of being an elected government composed of Spanish citizens (pro-French in sentiment, but Spanish nonetheless), instead of an installed monarch like Joseph.
 
There would surely be Spanish royalists who would resist. This régime would however have the benefit of being an elected government composed of Spanish citizens (pro-French in sentiment, but Spanish nonetheless), instead of an installed monarch like Joseph.

If this occurs, how will the Spanish New World react? I assume the Peace of Amiens might be delayed, at most by 2 years I think.
 
If this occurs, how will the Spanish New World react? I assume the Peace of Amiens might be delayed, at most by 2 years I think.

The Spanish Bourbons may take refuge in one of the colonies as the Braganzas would later do. (Maybe the French Bourbons join them?) But the colonies will probably have a mix of royalist and republican sentiment (and republicans could be divided between those loyal to Madrid and those pro-independence) so things could get pretty messy...
 
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