What would be required for the US to desegregate earlier? What would have happened if the civil Rights movement started in the 30s instead of the 50s/60s?
World War One have Wilson not be a racist and start de segregation in army which then spread out
Since the civil warWho starts it? Did any politician show any interest in desegregating the Army, prior to Truman's time?
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This Time magazine article is saying baseball commissioner Kenesaw Mountain Landis was not a racist.
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/4294175/jackie-robinson-burns-landis-myth
Instead, it was the damn owners. But if . . . we can get rolling with baseball segregation about a decade and a half earlier, we probably get integrated military units throughout almost all of World War II — and probably incidentally a little bit more cost-effective military — and post-war, desegregation rolls like water.
With many more Americans having the experience of serving in integrated units, there’s no longer any convincing moral case to be made. And Americans who continue to believe in discrimination are truly out of step with the rest of society.
The Time article is saying otherwise. In particular, that Landis issued this statement in June 1942: “ . . Negroes are not barred from organized baseball by the commissioner and never have been during the 21 years I have served. . ”Happy Chandler always claimed that he saw Landis's personal papers, and Landis was indeed a racist and supporter of the color line. . .
Since the civil war
What would be required for the US to desegregate earlier?
but people every since the civil war had wanted to integrate while definitely not a large majority at this is when the first talk of it beganWeren't White and Coloured regiments separate even during the ACW?
but people every since the civil war had wanted to integrate while definitely not a large majority at this is when the first talk of it began
Ultimately, the KKK looking like fools would be the result, but only after Confederates are recognized as American Veterans, to secure their support to send their grandsons and nephews off to war in the U.S. Army. So, there would be a brief "step back" for the goal of putting everyone on the "same team" to fight the bad guy. So, to integrate the Army and integrate baseball would be excellent starting points. Plus the progress of the ATL twenties might lessen the upcoming recession. A less punished Germany contributes to world technology through the twenties and thirties.Another side effect is that it likely relegated Birth of a Nation to a footnote - most films of the following three years are patriotic dramas and caricatures of the asshole Central Powers. Glorifying the Confederacy is taboo during this time - everyone’s on the same team and the Kaiser is the bad guy. So Birth of a Nation still enjoys some time in the sun but ultimately ends up in cult status among racists. The Klan ends up being a bunch of dipshits riding around in robes looking like fools.
That didn’t so much happen in the cold war OTL, with the U.S. propping up dictatorships and the Soviets supplying rebel armies, and some mixing of roles in this regard,Have WW1 drag on longer, so that the colonial empires disintegrate a generation earlier, and several countries in Eastern Europe go Bolshevik. Thus you get the Cold War that much sooner, with WAllies and Communists competing for the support of non-white ex-colonies. . . .