AHC- Divide The New World

SinghKing

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Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to create an ATL with a POD after 1776 where The New World is just as politically divided by the present day as The Old World is IOTL- a world in which there are at least 88 independent, internationally-recognised nations in both the Americas and Oceania combined. Not looking for Vlad Tepes candidates; post-apocalyptic scenarios brought about by large-scale WMD exchanges are off-limits, as are ASB-level super-plagues and natural disasters. The total population of the present-day world ITTL must be at least 90% of its total population IOTL (6.41 Billion minimum). Up for the challenge?
 
Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to create an ATL with a POD after 1776 where The New World is just as politically divided by the present day as The Old World is IOTL- a world in which there are at least 88 independent, internationally-recognised nations in both the Americas and Oceania combined. Not looking for Vlad Tepes candidates; post-apocalyptic scenarios brought about by large-scale WMD exchanges are off-limits, as are ASB-level super-plagues and natural disasters. The total population of the present-day world ITTL must be at least 90% of its total population IOTL (6.41 Billion minimum). Up for the challenge?

Probably the two things that would help this come about would be to prevent the unification of the various british colonies so that instead of canada, the usa and australia you would have a few dozens dominions and republics.

another might be to have more colonising powers involved who managed to hold on to their colonies long enough to allow the development of distinct identities and to have enough rivalry to prevent any lasting coalitions.
 

TFSmith121

Banned
Well, there are 49 currently recognized as sovereign states

Your challenge, should you choose to accept it, is to create an ATL with a POD after 1776 where The New World is just as politically divided by the present day as The Old World is IOTL- a world in which there are at least 88 independent, internationally-recognised nations in both the Americas and Oceania combined. Not looking for Vlad Tepes candidates; post-apocalyptic scenarios brought about by large-scale WMD exchanges are off-limits, as are ASB-level super-plagues and natural disasters. The total population of the present-day world ITTL must be at least 90% of its total population IOTL (6.41 Billion minimum). Up for the challenge?


Well, there are 49 currently recognized as sovereign states by the UN (including 14 in Oceania) at least according to a quick look at Wikipedia (I know, but the CIA World Factbook does not split the list between sovereign and non-sovereign states), so that's only 39 to go.

Going back to 1776 opens the doors for various and sundry possibilities, ranging from the lack of consolidation in the larger federal states (Argentina, Brazil, Mexico, US, Canada, and Australia) to even more independent microstates (Bermuda, Saint Pierre et Miquelon, Guadeloupe, Greenland, etc) to anywhere in between, including multiple European powers colonizing the continent of Australia, for example, giving rise to multiple indpendent nations there.

Simply including the current European dependencies in the Americas (Bermuda, etc) as independent microstates probably gets at least a third of the way to the additional 39; breaking up one or more of the large federal states (Quebec Libre and an independent Francophone Acadie in what would otherwise be Canada) plus the obvious Buenos Aires-Interior divides in Argentina, multiple states arising from Brazil and Australia, etc.

A US that is "smaller" would not necessarily yield more independent states, however, since almost all of the post-1783 expansion was into territory that (presumably) would belong to one of the other North American powers (Mexico or BNA/Canada, notably); unless those also fractured, the next gains would not be huge.

There are multiple possible paths, essentially.

Best,
 
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