AHC: Disney has a competitor in Walt's lifetime

samcster94

Banned
When Walt Disney was alive, he had no serious animated competitor for the animated movie market in America. The company's first competitor was a former animator named Don Bluth who rose to fame over a decade after his death. What can be done to get Fleischer, MGM, Warner Brothers, or any other studio to be a serious competitor in the "Golden Age of Animation??" Bonus points if the competition starts before WWII.
 
Either make Gulliver's Travels a success or have Tezuka Productions become a big enough success on TV in America that making films becomes the next step in their growth. I don't see MGM or Warner being big competitors to Disney due to the live action oriented heads at those companies.
 

Wallet

Banned
Hanna-Barbera dominated Saturday morning cartoons in the 60s and 70s, Disney couldn't even come close in that regard. H-B produced more cartoons and were watched by more children.

I would argue Tom and Jerry, Flintstones, Jetsons, Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Fin, Top Cat, Jabberjaw, and Scooby-Doo were far more relative on TV then Mickey Mouse and the gang.
 

samcster94

Banned
Fleischer could also avoid some of their more costly mistakes...
They were probably be the best candidate for a competitor.
A Looney Tunes film made in the 40's is a longshot
Hanna-Barbera dominated Saturday morning cartoons in the 60s and 70s, Disney couldn't even come close in that regard. H-B produced more cartoons and were watched by more children.

I would argue Tom and Jerry, Flintstones, Jetsons, Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Fin, Top Cat, Jabberjaw, and Scooby-Doo were far more relative on TV then Mickey Mouse and the gang.
HB made few films anyone remembers, Charlotte's Web is an exception(partially due to Debbie Reynolds). Also, this thread was dealing with the 40's, not the 70's. MGM, which led to HB, was one of the weaker studios in shorts(Tom and Jerry were two of their only memorable characters and they probably could not hold a film well at all, Roger Rabbit in the 80's worked as it used their own characters and existing ones were cameos). Tezuka in the postwar era might be interesting, but it'd be a longshot albeit it could easily compete with HB in the TV department. Proto-Anime in the late 50's-early 60's would probably not resonate that well due to still being close to WWII.
 
Maybe have their live action movies not do as well prompting them to make a full length looney tunes film?

Mel Blanc had a voice role in Disney's Pinocchio but it got dropped in editing when his character was made a mute like Dopey. Have that make him really mad and he helps convince WB to challenge Disney with Looney Toons movies.
 
Hanna-Barbera dominated Saturday morning cartoons in the 60s and 70s, Disney couldn't even come close in that regard. H-B produced more cartoons and were watched by more children.

I would argue Tom and Jerry, Flintstones, Jetsons, Yogi Bear, Huckleberry Fin, Top Cat, Jabberjaw, and Scooby-Doo were far more relative on TV then Mickey Mouse and the gang.

Granted, that’s because they were cheap and mass-produced. Quantity over quality
 

samcster94

Banned
Granted, that’s because they were cheap and mass-produced. Quantity over quality
They ripped themselves off many times and many characters they made are just expies of their characters. The Jetsons, Jabberjaw, etc ... only exist because they ripped off themselves. In today's animation field, that doesn't happen given multiple companies make cartoons today,not just HB and to a lesser extent, Filmation(back when cartoons were toy commercials ). Over a decade ago, someone tried to make a Spongebob ripoff called Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad and it quickly got cancelled.
 
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