AHC: Delay the Colonization of Australia
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Have Joseph Banks die or something so when whoever it was went looking for a penal colony they won't be able to hear his glowing (and bullshit) stories of Botany Bay. IOTL Le Perouse was scouting Botany Bay the day the First Fleet arrived, so I'd imagine the French may have set up a colony within a few years of 1788.
Which i imagine the British would have swallowed up pretty fast come the French Revolutionary Wars.
Anyway, one way you might be able to delay the colonisation of Australia is to have Britain either avoid or win the ARW and continue to transport convicts to the American colonies. However, one of the many grievances that the colonials had i believe was the transportation of convicts so it's probable that Britain will eventually have to look for a place to set up a penal colony and that place will probably be Australia.
So that might delay colonisation for 10 years or so, but i don't know how you could prevent (at least British Colonisation) it for longer...
Well they had largely redirected convicts to Georgia by the ARW so I suspect that the more likely solution problem in a no ARW scenario is the establishment of a new Penal Colony in the America's possibly Florida if they pick it up in one of the various wars of the period. Either way the best bet for delaying Australian colonisation is no ARW however that would probably only be sufficient for 20 years. Australia now in range and its rapidly approaching the "colonisation for the sake of it" period, plus the Aboriginals are the easiest natives to overpower.
Pangur
Donor
A Spanish Australia
I have wonder what would have happened if at least some of Australia had been settled by the Spanish. Some of the continent gets settled by the British, more by the French. In the ATL that I have in mind the US removes the Spanish from Aussie just like they did from the Phillipines. Moving forward in time and assuming that is a Pacifc war in WW2, what impact would that have ?
I have wonder what would have happened if at least some of Australia had been settled by the Spanish. Some of the continent gets settled by the British, more by the French. In the ATL that I have in mind the US removes the Spanish from Aussie just like they did from the Phillipines. Moving forward in time and assuming that is a Pacifc war in WW2, what impact would that have ?
mowque
Banned
Neat idea but drop the bold. A POD that far back will alter everything immensely by the Span-AM war, let alone WW2. Now, US policy in the Pacific in general would be interesting...
Pangur
Donor
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Thats fair comment; if I had to put other nations that may well have setlled Aussie then I would go
France
Holland
Potugal
Spain
The basis issue is that (as I understand it) these powers where in it for money - mainly read gold, silver and gems. Stuff Aussie has in vast supply however it was only in the Mid 19C that gold was found. The British were after another place to stash convicts after Georgia (US) was no longer an option.
Thats fair comment; if I had to put other nations that may well have setlled Aussie then I would go
France
Holland
Potugal
Spain
The basis issue is that (as I understand it) these powers where in it for money - mainly read gold, silver and gems. Stuff Aussie has in vast supply however it was only in the Mid 19C that gold was found. The British were after another place to stash convicts after Georgia (US) was no longer an option.
One way would be to have the British be succesful in the Conquest of Buenos Aires and Montevideo(and also the lands surrounded by the Parana and Uruguay rivers). I think that they would be more interested in this lands which are better and are far easier to access from the UK, as they have most of the Pampas and all of Patagonia to focus)